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Re: 3.73 Diff
Re: 3.73 Diff
Speedo signal
A Few parts for sale
Re: right turn crunching update
Re: right turn crunching update
Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages)
glass: oe or ppg?
Re: glass: oe or ppg?
Re: glass: oe or ppg?
Re: glass: oe or ppg?
Re: glass: oe or ppg?
Re: glass: oe or ppg?
Re: glass: oe or ppg?
Re: glass: oe or ppg?
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 09:39:16 -0700
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 3.73 Diff
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Aug 4, 2004, at 5:49 AM, Richard Sperry wrote:
> Isn't 3.73 too short (numerically higher) to be useful without a 6
> speed?
> 1st gear will be totally useless.
It's a big advantage on the tracks I run out here (Sears, Laguna,
Thunderhill, Buttonwillow). You don't use 1st gear on the track anyway.
:)
It's potentially a little short for Willow Springs, but I'm hp-limited
there anyway. It might be a problem in an M3 instead of my 325is
(w/cams).
- Mark
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Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 10:08:38 -0700
From: Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 3.73 Diff
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 09:39 AM 8/4/04, Mark Dadgar talked about:
>On Aug 4, 2004, at 5:49 AM, Richard Sperry wrote:
>>Isn't 3.73 too short (numerically higher) to be useful without a 6 speed?
>>1st gear will be totally useless.
>
>It's a big advantage on the tracks I run out here (Sears, Laguna,
>Thunderhill, Buttonwillow). You don't use 1st gear on the track anyway. :)
You use it even less with a 3.91 :-)
Jim Bassett
1993 325is #44 JP/A5 - with 3.91 diff, and driven to/from the track
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Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 10:52:10 -0700
From: "Scott T. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Speedo signal
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Anyone know what the speedometer signal looks like? I'm thinking of
tapping into it for a rally odometer. As far as I know, the sensor is
hooked to the dash, and the dash sends signals out to all the boxes that
need it, so I guess I'm interested in what the dash outputs.
FYI it's an E30M3 dash, though I'm not sure it matters (I'm hooking that
up to an S50B32 motor, so it seems there's some continuity between
models).
Scott
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 12:19:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: James Muskopf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: BMWUUCDigest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A Few parts for sale
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Airbag for 1990+ (fits many E30, E32, E34, E36 models)
Originally from 1993 325is, very good condition
$250
2 Halfshafts for 528e/524td/533i/633CSi, good to very good condition
They do NOT fit 535i, 635CSi, M5, or M6
$75 each
E28 535i/533i coolant expansion tank, only 10k miles on it,
practically new, plastic is not yellowed, includes good cap
$30
Front ATE brake rotors for 528e/533i/524td/633CSi
Great condition, used 1500 miles, not warped, never tracked
Center hat painted w/ black hi-temp paint to prevent unsightly rust
$50 for the pair
Front brake calipers with brackets for 528/524td/533i/633CSi
Rebuilt with ATE seals & guide bushings, used 1500mi, never tracked
$60 each or $100 for the pair
All prices DO NOT include shipping from the Northern VA area.
Thanks!
JamesM
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Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 16:33:22 -0400
From: "Donald McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: right turn crunching update
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Brian
Have you checked the lobros? Funky grease
can cause similar sound. A cleaning and
regreasing might be in order. I believe the
sound occurs on the side being used (right
turn right lobro).
Don McMahon
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 15:09:10 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "Brian Ruiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: right turn crunching update
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Brian Ruiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A list member noticed the difference in wheels on the
> rear of my car, and mentioned possible differential
> problems as a result of it. [...] I was driving for a
> week or two like that before I was told that this would
> cause problems.
> [...] now I am getting crunching noises from the rear
> end when I make right turns.
> Undoubtedly this is from driving for those two weeks
> like that, but I am wondering if it makes sense that
> it happens ONLY when I am making right turns. It is a
> lot worse when I make a right turn over or onto a bumpy
> segment of road (like a gutter or ragged asphalt). I
> assume this is so because the limited slip gets engaged
> easier due to the lack of traction, but I am not
> positive. In any case, does this make sense to anyone
> else?
Brian,
Yes, it could be the limited slip (if you have one) clutches are
wearing
off.
When was the last time you had changed the fluid? How many miles on the
car/diff?
If it's been a while, I would put new RedLine 75W90 and see if changes
anything. Normally, limited slip diffs start to wear somewhere north of
150K miles. Running constant load on the diff (different diameter rear
tiers) would expedite the wear, though
> [...] I still am not positive of the source of the
> noise; however I did notice this weekend that it does
> NOT make the crunching noise when I make a right turn
> in neutral. This would seem to eliminate the wheel
> bearing or axle as a possible source,
Your car does not have an axle => independent suspension all around.
It could still be a bad wheel bearing. Those things are hard to pin
point,
especially on the rear.
> however I still don't know why a right turn in gear would
> cause crunching, while a right turn in neutral would not.
All other things being equal, engine torque transmitted to the wheels
would put load on the LSD. Turning in neutral = no delta in torque load
between two rear wheels.
HTH,
alex f
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 14:51:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: right turn crunching update
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Pardon my ignorance...but what is a 'lobro'?
Brian
--- Donald McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brian
>
> Have you checked the lobros? Funky grease
> can cause similar sound. A cleaning and
> regreasing might be in order. I believe the
> sound occurs on the side being used (right
> turn right lobro).
>
> Don McMahon
>
> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 15:09:10 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: "Brian Ruiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: right turn crunching update
> Message-ID:
>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> "Brian Ruiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > A list member noticed the difference in wheels on
> the
> > rear of my car, and mentioned possible
> differential
> > problems as a result of it. [...] I was driving
> for a
> > week or two like that before I was told that this
> would
> > cause problems.
> > [...] now I am getting crunching noises from the
> rear
> > end when I make right turns.
> > Undoubtedly this is from driving for those two
> weeks
> > like that, but I am wondering if it makes sense
> that
> > it happens ONLY when I am making right turns. It
> is a
> > lot worse when I make a right turn over or onto a
> bumpy
> > segment of road (like a gutter or ragged asphalt).
> I
> > assume this is so because the limited slip gets
> engaged
> > easier due to the lack of traction, but I am not
> > positive. In any case, does this make sense to
> anyone
> > else?
>
> Brian,
> Yes, it could be the limited slip (if you have one)
> clutches are
> wearing
> off.
> When was the last time you had changed the fluid?
> How many miles on the
>
> car/diff?
> If it's been a while, I would put new RedLine 75W90
> and see if changes
>
> anything. Normally, limited slip diffs start to wear
> somewhere north of
>
> 150K miles. Running constant load on the diff
> (different diameter rear
>
> tiers) would expedite the wear, though
>
> > [...] I still am not positive of the source of the
>
> > noise; however I did notice this weekend that it
> does
> > NOT make the crunching noise when I make a right
> turn
> > in neutral. This would seem to eliminate the
> wheel
> > bearing or axle as a possible source,
>
> Your car does not have an axle => independent
> suspension all around.
> It could still be a bad wheel bearing. Those things
> are hard to pin
> point,
> especially on the rear.
>
> > however I still don't know why a right turn in
> gear would
> > cause crunching, while a right turn in neutral
> would not.
>
> All other things being equal, engine torque
> transmitted to the wheels
> would put load on the LSD. Turning in neutral = no
> delta in torque load
>
> between two rear wheels.
>
> HTH,
> alex f
>
> Search the
>
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>
>
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>
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Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 15:34:00 -0500
From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
on 8/4/04 11:39 AM, "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> What is the conventional (or even unconventional) wisdom on the best
> tools to use to disconnect stubborn brake lines? I'm separating the
> rubber hose from the hard line on my (semi)trailing arms. The
> passenger side broke loose with only moderate effort. The driver's
> side is being stubborn, and the small nut on the hard line is starting
> to morph into a non-hex shape. Apparently an 11mm open end wrench is
> not the best tool to use on this?
on 8/4/04 11:39 AM, Jenny Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ALWAYS use a flarenut wrench on a brake line... is similar to box end
> w/ about 1/4 missing...to get around hose.
A partially dissenting experience: all fixed size wrenches, however well
made, have some slight amount of slop on the nut. This leads to rounding of
tight nuts, especially smaller sizes like the hard line captive nut. I've
sometimes found that using an adjustable wrench works better, because you
can set it for zero play.
Liquid Wrench is crappy and ineffective penetrating oil. The best I've used
is Kroil, but PB Blaster and Wurth both are also spoken of highly.
Neil
96 M3
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 15:34:05 -0700
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: glass: oe or ppg?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
If you were replacing the windshield in your bimmer, would you spend
$157 extra for an OE unit vs an aftermarket PPG unit?
--
"It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
-Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 17:53:39 -0500
From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: glass: oe or ppg?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
My '94 E34 has a PPG windshield. I have no idea how old it is. It is the
first bimmer I've had that did not have a severly pitted windshield.
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Subject: [UUC] glass: oe or ppg?
If you were replacing the windshield in your bimmer, would you spend
$157 extra for an OE unit vs an aftermarket PPG unit?
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 18:18:04 -0500
From: Jenny Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Karl Zemlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: glass: oe or ppg?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Not only would I use PPG, I have had it in my last 3 E30s...
Believe it or not, American Manufacturers make some of the world's
best...
Now collector value and all that crud... who knows.
Jenny Morgan
On Aug 4, 2004, at 5:53 PM, Karl Zemlin wrote:
> My '94 E34 has a PPG windshield. I have no idea how old it is. It is
> the
> first bimmer I've had that did not have a severly pitted windshield.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Bolhuis
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 5:34 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [UUC] glass: oe or ppg?
>
>
> If you were replacing the windshield in your bimmer, would you spend
> $157 extra for an OE unit vs an aftermarket PPG unit?
>
> --
> "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
> -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro
> Search the
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>
> _______________________________________________________________________
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> CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short
> Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 .
> http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>
>
>
>
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>
> _______________________________________________________________________
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> CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:30:02 -0700
From: Dave Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: glass: oe or ppg?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Wednesday 04 August 2004 03:34 pm, John Bolhuis wrote:
> If you were replacing the windshield in your bimmer, would you spend
> $157 extra for an OE unit vs an aftermarket PPG unit?
I have several cars with PPG windshields (not the BMW though) and have had
zero problems with them.
How much is the PPG glass? If going OE is twice the cost of the PPG my choice
would be PPG, but if its another $157 on top of $700-$800 for glass that has
a BMW logo on it I might consider paying the extra. Maybe.
Dave
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 19:50:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: glass: oe or ppg?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
No.
Gary Derian
--- John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you were replacing the windshield in your
> bimmer, would you spend
> $157 extra for an OE unit vs an aftermarket PPG
> unit?
>
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 20:50:25 -0700
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: glass: oe or ppg?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> --- John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > If you were replacing the windshield in your
> > bimmer, would you spend
> > $157 extra for an OE unit vs an aftermarket PPG
> > unit?
Sounds like 5 to 1 in favor of the highly regarded and less expensive
PPG glass. Cool.
State Farm won't pay to replace an un-glued falling-out windshield
though because it ain't broken. Spirited driving isn't enough to make
it fall completely out and smash on the road, and I'm too gosh darned
honest to break the thing myself, so the glass shop is going to see if
it can't be cleaned up and reinstalled.
--
"It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
-Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 00:45:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bmw list)
Subject: Re: glass: oe or ppg?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From John Bolhuis
>
> State Farm won't pay to replace an un-glued falling-out windshield
>though because it ain't broken. Spirited driving isn't enough to make
>it fall completely out and smash on the road, and I'm too gosh darned
>honest to break the thing myself, so the glass shop is going to see if
>it can't be cleaned up and reinstalled.
>
If I am not mistaken, isn't the windshield now a structural element of the
car? Wouldn't this represent a nice big safety hazard? Wouldn't it make
sense for them to replace the glass before they have to pay a nice big claim
when the windshield pops out, causes an accident, or worse... Perhaps if you
asked them to deny the claim in writing so that when it cracks into nice big
sharp bits and flys into the car at highway speeds your estate can use it
for the civil suit.
Then again, messing with the insurance companies probably isn't a really
good idea.
Seriously though, if you had a crack in the windshield and wouldn't pass
inspection, would they replace it? Would this pass inspection?
My insurance company replaced my heavily pitted but not broken windshield
when I pointed out that you couldn't see through it if the sun was at the
right angle. They put a new one in rather than let me get into an accident.
-- Joe
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Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 00:19:39 -0500
From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: glass: oe or ppg?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I love OE, but don't let that sway you...
My local dealer wanted over $600 for the OE screen and no guarantee it
would arrive unbroken.
Compare that to $125 from the cheap-assed glass shop down the highway
and it was a no brainer..
(somehow I don't think I got a PPG windshield)... ;-)
Paul A. Garnier
Systems Integration
FastNetworking
-----Original Message-----
From: John Bolhuis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 5:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UUC] glass: oe or ppg?
If you were replacing the windshield in your bimmer, would you spend
$157 extra for an OE unit vs an aftermarket PPG unit?
--
"It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
-Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro
Search the
ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
________________________________________________________________________
__
In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW
CCA.
UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 .
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
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