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  <E36> Light bar
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  Paint
  E30 M3 parts for sale
  Re: Euro v. US spec differences
  Re: Euro v. US spec differences
  Re: Oktoberfest locations???
  OT - but it has wheels.  I'm speechless ...
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  Schroth 4 Point Harnesses for Sale

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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:07:24 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: <E36> Light bar
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Guys,

"T" type LED's can be fitted with cones that help to increase the viewing
angle.
In any case, the construction of the Hella bar is such that the
incandescents sit in a tunnel in the bar which limits the angle to straight
behind anyway.


-Kevin




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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:00:52 -0400
From: "David A. Leonard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages)
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At 06:39 PM 4/11/05, you wrote:
>Ladies and Gentlemen with automotive paint experience:
>
>I'm about to embark on having some paint work done and would like some
>advice from anyone with experience.
>
>1995 M3, 05/94 production with ID tag that indicates Alpinweiss III.
> From what I've found this corresponds to a paint code 300 for 1993+
>cars.
>
>1) Do I need to ensure that the finish coat has a flexibility agent
>added?
>
>2) The bumper cover arrived primed (it's a new factory BMW piece).  Does
>it need more than a simple scuff before finish coating is applied?
>
>3) Do the finish materials have to be base/clear or can a single-stage
>Urethane or Acrylic Enamel be used?  What are the draw backs, if any?
>
>4) Are there specific brands of paint to stay clear of as they won't
>mate with BMW factory primers, etc?
>
>This is for my otherwise not perfect DE car, so I don't expect, need nor
>am I willing to pay for a concours level finish.  However, I don't want
>the cover to be an 'obvious repaint' either.
>
>Please copy any responses to my inquiry to me directly as well as the
>list so I get them sooner.  Thanks!



NAPA, or any good auto paint store can match the paint.  I painted a Buick 
bumper cover recently, with very good results.  The flex agent is important 
on bumper covers.  It makes the paint into micro-foam bubbles, and so 
remains flexible.  You can't see the bubbles but that is how the flex agent 
works.  Base /clear is where it is at for fine paint work, as you can fix 
the mistakes with the base, wet sand, mist coat and then clear coat, which 
can also be wet sanded.

A bumper cover is small enough that you should be able to shoot it well 
enough that you don't need to wet sand.  1000 grit will cover a multitude 
of sins however, but I didn't need to get into that with the bumper 
cover.  The whole car I painted, however, was quite a sandingf and buffing 
excercise.  BTW Metallics can't be wet sanded.  Actually you can, but then 
you need to mist another coat on over them.  Then you clear, which can be 
wet sanded.

Lots of paints can be color matched either base clear, or single 
stage.  The base /clears are urethanes, the single stages are called 
acrylic enamel, however, if you dig deep in Dupont's website, they will 
admit that acrylic enamels, when used with hardeners, are also considered 
urethanes.  Hardener is always used in all painting, otherwise the stuff 
takes a few days to kick.

Base /clear supplies to paint my bumper cover were in the $200 range for 
base, clear, flex, hardener, reducer, etc.  I like to use a little fish eye 
reducer additive too.  I called three paint places, the first two insisted 
the color was only available base clear, the local NAPA mixed me a quart of 
single stage metallic Blue for $30.  I had reducer, that is $20 a gallon, 
hardener is about $10 and flex about $15 or so, as is fish eye, so you can 
see single stage is about 1/3d the cost.

I really like Dupont Centari for what it is worth, they couldn't match it 
single stage, Martin Senor
  ( NAPA ) could mix my color single stage.

My results were as good as the original paint, so you won't be seeing an 
obvious repaint if you lay down a good coat.

Keep some big sheets of cardboard around for shooting to adjust the gun, 
you want more of an oval pattern with the HVLP gun than the traditional fan 
that we used on the siphon guns.  I like about 40 lbs at the gun, which is 
more than they recommend for environmental purposes, but if you talk to 
painters, they use a lot of pressure to get a bunch of material on.  I have 
to actually put the gun down and walk around a while while the paint 
flashes, as I have no patience.  About 3 coats should do it..when it is 
'almost perfect.'.stop.. you'll only f##$$ it up from there.   Keep the gun 
moving parallell to the surface, and move it about three feet per 
second.  One tip a painter gave me, only shoot in one direction when you 
are a beginner, the good guys shoot back and forth, they do it every 
day..we don't .  It was a great tip.  Start the stroke before you get to 
what you are painting, pull the trigger so you get just air, then paint 
comeing out, then onto the surface you want to paint, move smoothly, about 
8-10" away from the surface, all the way across the surface, and keep the 
trigger down until you move all the way off the surface.  Start at the 
bottom, and work up, misting lightly for the first coat.  On the second and 
third you will see the gloss forming, keep a " wet edge" so the gloss is 
uniform over the whole surface, but not so wet it runs..a fine line here!

Single stage is cheaper, less hassle, and generally less mixing and work to 
use.  I use a cheap HVLP gravity cup gun from NAPA for $100.00 or so, I did 
a whole 735i with it.  Results were excellent.  I used single stage there 
too, again for cost reasons, however if I do a whole car again I will 
probably go b/c as I like the ability to fix the mistakes.  For small 
repairs and matching, I like single stage acrylic urethane.

The single stage paints are called " Fleet paints" and they are cheaper, 
yet still Urethane, and very hard, shiny and long lasting.  I did my e32 
two years ago, it still looks great.  I used Dupont Centari.

For prep on your primed bumper cover, I would use grey scotch brite pads, 
from the paint store, scuff, wash with 3m adhesive remover, or dupont " 
prep-sol" and then shoot the paint.  You will get great results on 
something as small as a bumper cover.  Small is easier, whole cars are kind 
of hard.

I hope this helps, I am not sure if you are planning to shoot this yourself 
or have it done.  The cost to have it done or do it yourself would probably 
be the same, however, I find paint work to be very satisfying, and once you 
have the equipment, repairs become real cheap later.  My wife actully 
smashed up my fender lastr fall with the truck, I cam home, banged it out, 
sanded, primered, bondoed, sanded, primed, and shot a mathced coat of 
British Racing Green Centari left over form the repaint, and had it fixed 
the same day, for no money!  Very cool.

Take care, Dave

88 e32
90 e32
91 e30 convertible
93 Suburban
92 Buick Roadmaster

72 Bellanca Super Viking 300 ( needs some paint soon, the wing tank under 
the fabric and plywood needs to have a leak fixed.  Bummer.

90 Wellcraft 22' 5.7 Merc  ( painted with a roller and tipped..very shiny!)

And a bunch of other crap in the yard...



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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:26:56 -0700
From: Harvey Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Paint
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Paint comes in a wide range of quality and price (hopefully 
correlated).  Much of the cost of painting a car is the labor to prep 
before you paint.  Then, the cost/labor application of the paint - - 
which is the same for cheap paint as for high quality paint.

Apply the best quality paint you can afford so that you aren't looking 
at a "re-do" in 2-3 years!  Don't ask me how I know!!!!


Harvey
The box said "Requires Windows 95, or better." So I bought a Macintosh.
    I live with fear, death, and evil...but I used to be able to turn it 
off and use a Mac. "  Author Unknown
    Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft 
product.
           -- Ferenc Mantfeld


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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:59:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Subject: E30 M3 parts for sale
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Couple of more E30 M3 items I need to sell:

-EvoIII undertray (new) (covers more of the underside than the stock
one, has holes to match the EvoIII brake ducts, goes with the EvoIII
splitter, etc): $140 + shipping

-set of stock injectors (4) (used): $40 + shipping.

Shipping from 48034 or can deliver to Putnam Park this coming weekend
(Apr. 16th-17th).

Carlos
x-91 M3 (will be driving it at Putnam) :-) 
88 325is
93 325is


                
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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 04:19:21 +0000
From: "Gilbert Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Euro v. US spec differences
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Dennis stated:

>Not to mention the fact that the official BMW reason for not selling diesel
>engine cars here in the US is that the sulfur content allowed by FedGov is
>much higher than that in European diesel fuel, and causes problems and
>damage to BMW's diesel engines.  The sulfur content is supposed to be
>changed by 2007, after which more European manufacturers are supposed to
>offer diesel cars here.

The word I've always gotten from BMWNA headquarters is (paraphrased): 
"Mercedes Benz sells 4000 diesels a year here. If we start selling diesels, 
then we sell 2000 and they sell 2000." I have on good word (from someone on 
this list I believe) that there shouldn't be a problem with the fuel here. 
Plus I was going to run the car on biodiesel anyway...

Thanks to all for their input on this matter.

Gilbert



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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:02:58 -0400
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Euro v. US spec differences
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Fyi.... 

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CYH/is_16_7/ai_107756432

Vty,

--Dennis


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gilbert Hoffman
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UUC] Euro v. US spec differences


Dennis stated:

>Not to mention the fact that the official BMW reason for not selling
>diesel engine cars here in the US is that the sulfur content allowed by 
>FedGov is much higher than that in European diesel fuel, and causes 
>problems and damage to BMW's diesel engines.  The sulfur content is 
>supposed to be changed by 2007, after which more European manufacturers 
>are supposed to offer diesel cars here.

The word I've always gotten from BMWNA headquarters is (paraphrased): 
"Mercedes Benz sells 4000 diesels a year here. If we start selling diesels, 
then we sell 2000 and they sell 2000." I have on good word (from someone on 
this list I believe) that there shouldn't be a problem with the fuel here. 
Plus I was going to run the car on biodiesel anyway...

Thanks to all for their input on this matter.

Gilbert


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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:26:43 -0700
From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oktoberfest locations???
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Harmon, '93 was in Sonoma, CA.  Were you there?  I was.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA
O'Fest Veteran of
1985 in Monterey
1993 in Sonoma
2004 in Pasadena

>Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 11:26:44 -0600
>From: "Harmon Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "bmwuucdigest" <[email protected]>,
>   "BMWCCAtalk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   "BMWCCA presidents" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Oktoberfest locations???
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Help - I'm working on my Oktoberfest registration - April
>Roundel - but I'm having trouble remembering how many I attended,
>starting in 1978.  I can remember 20+ years ago, but am having
trouble
>with more recent ones:
>
>'78 - Milwaukee, WI #1
>'79 - Boston, MA
>'80 - San Diego, CA
>'81 - Milwaukee, WI #2
>'82 - Albany, NY
>'83 - Colorado Springs, CO #1
>'84 - Sturbridge, MA
>'85 - Monterey, CA
>'86 - Florida
>'87 - Tulsa, OK
>'88 - Rochester, NY
>'89 -
>'90 -
>'91 -
>'92 -
>'93 -
>'94 -
>'95 -
>'96 -
>'97 - Waterville Valley, NH #1
>'98 - Orlando, FL
>'99 -
>'00 -
>'01 - Waterville Valley, NH #2 (?)
>'02 -
>'03 - Austin, TX
>'04 - Colorado #4
>
>When was the event held in:
>Colorado #2
>Colorado #3
>Columbus, OH
>Connecticut
>Tysons Corner, VA
>Andover, MA
>Other ???
>
>No, I didn't attend Boston, Monterey, Connecticut, and
>Colorado #4.  I think that this year will be either # 22 or #23.
>Many thanks,
>Harmon Fischer
>Member # 1806




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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:26:29 -0500
From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OT - but it has wheels.  I'm speechless ...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

http://www.internationaldelivers.com/site_layout/XTFamily/cxt.asp



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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:11:04 -0400
From: "Eric Benjamin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: OT - but it has wheels.  I'm speechless ...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Perfect grocery getter for the uber-soccer mom. Too bad the accelerated 
depreciation is no longer avail. for 6000# vehicles. I would love to get 
one, paint it red and put a mobile billboard for my business on it. It would 
be the ultimate realtor-mobile!
;-)
Eric
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From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [UUC] OT - but it has wheels. I'm speechless ...


> http://www.internationaldelivers.com/site_layout/XTFamily/cxt.asp
>



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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:17:18 -0500
From: "Dave Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Karl Zemlin'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected],
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT - but it has wheels.  I'm speechless ...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Wow, I want one of them for a daily driver.  Then I will have something
bigger and uglier and more stupid than the Hummer.

Dave

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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:26 AM
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Subject: [UUC] OT - but it has wheels. I'm speechless ...

http://www.internationaldelivers.com/site_layout/XTFamily/cxt.asp


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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:23:03 -0500
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: OT - but it has wheels.  I'm speechless ...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

That is pretty much the "anti everything I want in a vehicle" vehicle for me.

I would like to know someone that owned one, you never know when you might 
need to tow a house or something.....

Dennis
01 M5 silver/black (for sale)


At 08:17 AM 04/12/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>Wow, I want one of them for a daily driver.  Then I will have something
>bigger and uglier and more stupid than the Hummer.
>
>Dave
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karl Zemlin
>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:26 AM
>To: [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [UUC] OT - but it has wheels. I'm speechless ...
>
>http://www.internationaldelivers.com/site_layout/XTFamily/cxt.asp
>
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com


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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:46:04 -0500
From: "Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BMW List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: OT - but it has wheels.  I'm speechless ...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

It's huge. I saw one at Barrett Jackson in Scotsdale. Ridiculous vehicle.
Great truck for the current gas prices. I think Aston Kutcher has one. That
reminds me, if I haven't already posted it here, there was an old VW bus at
the auction out there, and the auctioneer said this: "This truck was used on
the television program 'That 70's Show', Aston Kutcher once drove it, that
outta add at least 25 or 30 bucks to the price."  LOL.

Alex Cagann
http://www.autoconsortium.com




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Date: 12 Apr 2005 14:39:44 -0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT - but it has wheels.  I'm speechless ...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I noticed it has air brakes.  My experience with air brakes is limited, but I 
recall that they were quite touchy when the truck was light.  It might be 
better equipped for casual hauling if it had hydraulic brakes with that "real 
air brake sound".

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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:52:45 -0700
From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: OT - but it has wheels.  I'm speechless ...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 02:39:44PM -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I noticed it has air brakes.  My experience with air brakes is
> limited, but I recall that they were quite touchy when the truck was
> light.  It might be better equipped for casual hauling if it had
> hydraulic brakes with that "real air brake sound".

 I've driven a small dump truck with hydraulic brakes, and they were 
very touchy when unloaded.  I had a bus with air brakes, and they really 
didn't feel any different.  Touchy, but very driveable.  And nothing 
compares with the sound of the air parking brake.  Awesome.

-- 
 "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster."
   -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro 

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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:26:12 -0500
From: "Dave Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Schroth 4 Point Harnesses for Sale
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have a pair of black Schroth 4 point harnesses for sale.  They are out of
my 95 M3 and I don't need them any longer since I went to the 6 point setup
with a roll bar.  They will work in all E36 BMW's  

They are the kind that attach under the rear seat using longer bolts in the
center seat belt mounting point.  The strap stores under the seat, totally
out of site when not in use.

The fronts install with the stock seat belt mount points, and store under
the front seats when not in use.

I am also including two shoulder belt protection pads for the driver's side.

These belts are great for holding you in the seat at driving schools and
auto cross events.

I am asking $100 plus all shipping and PayPal costs.

Dave
95 M3



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