The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 449 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: <misc> old Redline MTL Re: M42/S14 Flywheel swap Re: M42/S14 Flywheel swap Re: M42/S14 Flywheel swap Re: M42/S14 Flywheel swap Re: M42/S14 Flywheel swap Re: M42/S14 Flywheel swap Re: 97 540 6-spd trans output seal, SHIMMY, Driveshaft Re: 97 540 6-spd trans output seal, SHIMMY, Driveshaft Re: M42/S14 Flywheel swap
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 06:48:06 -0400 From: "Fuerst Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Matt Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <misc> old Redline MTL Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes. 1st - would also be concerned with dust/dirt in an open MTL jug for 5 years. Open/capped?, no worries. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Bader Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] <misc> old Redline MTL The exception would be brake fluid, correct? It always says use brake fluid from a sealed container because brake fluid, by its very nature tends to absorb moisture. So, if you have a half a quart of brake fluid sitting around in an otherwise sealed container, does it become no good? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 07:57:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: M42/S14 Flywheel swap Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John, I've used a euro 318i flywheel for a non-AC car in a 1991 318is and it has worked beautifully. The euro piece is not a dual-mass, and it is very light. You need to make sure your idle control valve is up to snuff, but other than that it's a bolt-on, no mess affair. Cheers! Jonathan Bush Northstar/GGC Chapters --- johngrills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gruppe: > > I have a S14 flywheel that I'd like to put in my e30 > 318is and help out > the low end. The M20 flywheel conversion seems to be > well documented, > does anyone know if the S14 flywheel can be fitted > into the M42? > > This 318is rehab/beater project is seemingly never > ending...latest: all > cooling systems parts are new after the radiator > exploded (except the > heater core) and now the starter seems to be > going...so, while I'm in > there, might as well do the clutch and replace the > flywheel, just for > grins. (and rebuild the shifter, and transmission > seals, rear main seal > and and and...for $1k w/99k miles it seemed like > such a great deal last > summer!) > > cheers! > > John Grills > NCC-BMWCCA > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 08:04:13 -0700 From: Mark Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jonathan Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: M42/S14 Flywheel swap Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jonathan, Do you have a part number for that flywheel? If not, which year 318i did that come from? Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Mark Gold Sacramento Valley Chapter BMWCCA [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 16, 2007, at 7:57 AM, Jonathan Bush wrote: > John, > > I've used a euro 318i flywheel for a non-AC car in a > 1991 318is and it has worked beautifully. The euro > piece is not a dual-mass, and it is very light. You > need to make sure your idle control valve is up to > snuff, but other than that it's a bolt-on, no mess > affair. > > Cheers! > Jonathan Bush > Northstar/GGC Chapters > > --- johngrills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Gruppe: >> >> I have a S14 flywheel that I'd like to put in my e30 >> 318is and help out >> the low end. The M20 flywheel conversion seems to be >> well documented, >> does anyone know if the S14 flywheel can be fitted >> into the M42? >> >> This 318is rehab/beater project is seemingly never >> ending...latest: all >> cooling systems parts are new after the radiator >> exploded (except the >> heater core) and now the starter seems to be >> going...so, while I'm in >> there, might as well do the clutch and replace the >> flywheel, just for >> grins. (and rebuild the shifter, and transmission >> seals, rear main seal >> and and and...for $1k w/99k miles it seemed like >> such a great deal last >> summer!) >> >> cheers! >> >> John Grills >> NCC-BMWCCA >> Search the >> > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> >> > ______________________________________________________________________ > ____ >> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, >> founder of the BMW CCA. >> >> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and >> home of the Ultimate >> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/ > [email protected] > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ____ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the > BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:43:58 -0400 From: johngrills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mark Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Jonathan Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: M42/S14 Flywheel swap Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No, I am stock currently, wondering if I can wicker the S14 FY in there... So, the M40 is the single-mass Euro FY for 4 cyl engines? r/jpg Mark Gold wrote: > That's the part number for the stock M42 flywheel. Are you using the > flywheel from an M40? (11221739315 which is $337.03) > > On Apr 16, 2007, at 9:47 AM, johngrills wrote: > >> 02/1991 production date, only 2 more months of production on the US >> cars, so it must have all the kinks worked out, right? ;) >> >> >> *You Have Selected: P E30 2-T 318is M42 USA 19910200 L M* >> >> *Production Code: AF93, batch ID: 47305* >> >> >> P/N for the stock flywheel is: 21211223550 for a sweet $859.32 >> > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:50:22 -0400 From: johngrills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jonathan Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: M42/S14 Flywheel swap Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John, Where did you find the euro flywheel? Makes the idle testier you say? A/C non-A/C...how does that affect this part? cheers! jpg Jonathan Bush wrote: > John, > > I've used a euro 318i flywheel for a non-AC car in a > 1991 318is and it has worked beautifully. The euro > piece is not a dual-mass, and it is very light. You > need to make sure your idle control valve is up to > snuff, but other than that it's a bolt-on, no mess > affair. > > Cheers! > Jonathan Bush > Northstar/GGC Chapters > > --- johngrills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Gruppe: >> >> I have a S14 flywheel that I'd like to put in my e30 >> 318is and help out >> the low end. The M20 flywheel conversion seems to be >> well documented, >> does anyone know if the S14 flywheel can be fitted >> into the M42? >> >> This 318is rehab/beater project is seemingly never >> ending...latest: all >> cooling systems parts are new after the radiator >> exploded (except the >> heater core) and now the starter seems to be >> going...so, while I'm in >> there, might as well do the clutch and replace the >> flywheel, just for >> grins. (and rebuild the shifter, and transmission >> seals, rear main seal >> and and and...for $1k w/99k miles it seemed like >> such a great deal last >> summer!) >> >> cheers! >> >> John Grills >> NCC-BMWCCA >> Search the >> >> > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > >> >> > __________________________________________________________________________ > >> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, >> founder of the BMW CCA. >> >> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and >> home of the Ultimate >> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com >> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:28:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: M42/S14 Flywheel swap Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The idle is okay when idling. However, when dropping back down to idle, the lighter flywheel will let the idle drop more quickly than a stock, heavier flywheel. A lazy ICV will let the engine stall, especially with the drag of an engaged AC compressor. Cheers! Jonathan Northstar/GGC Chapters --- johngrills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John, > Where did you find the euro flywheel? Makes the idle > testier you say? > A/C non-A/C...how does that affect this part? > > cheers! > jpg > > Jonathan Bush wrote: > > John, > > > > I've used a euro 318i flywheel for a non-AC car in > a > > 1991 318is and it has worked beautifully. The euro > > piece is not a dual-mass, and it is very light. > You > > need to make sure your idle control valve is up to > > snuff, but other than that it's a bolt-on, no mess > > affair. > > > > Cheers! > > Jonathan Bush > > Northstar/GGC Chapters > > > > --- johngrills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> Gruppe: > >> > >> I have a S14 flywheel that I'd like to put in my > e30 > >> 318is and help out > >> the low end. The M20 flywheel conversion seems to > be > >> well documented, > >> does anyone know if the S14 flywheel can be > fitted > >> into the M42? > >> > >> This 318is rehab/beater project is seemingly > never > >> ending...latest: all > >> cooling systems parts are new after the radiator > >> exploded (except the > >> heater core) and now the starter seems to be > >> going...so, while I'm in > >> there, might as well do the clutch and replace > the > >> flywheel, just for > >> grins. (and rebuild the shifter, and transmission > >> seals, rear main seal > >> and and and...for $1k w/99k miles it seemed like > >> such a great deal last > >> summer!) > >> > >> cheers! > >> > >> John Grills > >> NCC-BMWCCA > >> Search the > >> > >> > > > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > >> > >> > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > > >> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > >> founder of the BMW CCA. > >> > >> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > >> home of the Ultimate > >> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > >> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > >> > >> > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:48:02 -0400 From: johngrills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jonathan Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: M42/S14 Flywheel swap Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ah...so that's the A/C rub...the heel/toe crowd prolly wouldn't mind a bit of practice eh? r/jpg Jonathan Bush wrote: > The idle is okay when idling. > > However, when dropping back down to idle, the lighter > flywheel will let the idle drop more quickly than a > stock, heavier flywheel. A lazy ICV will let the > engine stall, especially with the drag of an engaged > AC compressor. > > Cheers! > Jonathan > Northstar/GGC Chapters > > > --- johngrills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> John, >> Where did you find the euro flywheel? Makes the idle >> testier you say? >> A/C non-A/C...how does that affect this part? >> >> cheers! >> jpg >> >> Jonathan Bush wrote: >> >>> John, >>> >>> I've used a euro 318i flywheel for a non-AC car in >>> >> a >> >>> 1991 318is and it has worked beautifully. The euro >>> piece is not a dual-mass, and it is very light. >>> >> You >> >>> need to make sure your idle control valve is up to >>> snuff, but other than that it's a bolt-on, no mess >>> affair. >>> >>> Cheers! >>> Jonathan Bush >>> Northstar/GGC Chapters >>> >>> --- johngrills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Gruppe: >>>> >>>> I have a S14 flywheel that I'd like to put in my >>>> >> e30 >> >>>> 318is and help out >>>> the low end. The M20 flywheel conversion seems to >>>> >> be >> >>>> well documented, >>>> does anyone know if the S14 flywheel can be >>>> >> fitted >> >>>> into the M42? >>>> >>>> This 318is rehab/beater project is seemingly >>>> >> never >> >>>> ending...latest: all >>>> cooling systems parts are new after the radiator >>>> exploded (except the >>>> heater core) and now the starter seems to be >>>> going...so, while I'm in >>>> there, might as well do the clutch and replace >>>> >> the >> >>>> flywheel, just for >>>> grins. (and rebuild the shifter, and transmission >>>> seals, rear main seal >>>> and and and...for $1k w/99k miles it seemed like >>>> such a great deal last >>>> summer!) >>>> >>>> cheers! >>>> >>>> John Grills >>>> NCC-BMWCCA >>>> Search the >>>> >>>> >>>> > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > >>> >>> >>>> >>>> > __________________________________________________________________________ > >>> >>> >>>> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, >>>> founder of the BMW CCA. >>>> >>>> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and >>>> home of the Ultimate >>>> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >>>> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >>> >> protection around >> >>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>> Search the >>> > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > >>> >>> > __________________________________________________________________________ > >>> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, >>> >> founder of the BMW CCA. >> >>> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and >>> >> home of the Ultimate >> >>> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >>> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 08:20:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Ivan Demkovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: 97 540 6-spd trans output seal, SHIMMY, Driveshaft Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Who knows about those guys? http://www.thrashdriveshaft.com/import2.htm#BMW%20DRIVESHAFTS Are their driveshafts any good? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:33:11 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: 97 540 6-spd trans output seal, SHIMMY, Driveshaft Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ivan, >From the description of a vibration under load it sounds like it's the drive shaft u-joints. The grease has dried out and the needle bearings are catching not rotating. You have to take the driveshaft off and you feel it as a slight hitch(click) when you rotate the joint through it's full travel. Did you remember to pre-load the driveshaft at the center bearing before tightening everything back together? -Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:24:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: M42/S14 Flywheel swap Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My fuzzy recollection is this: When I was working at Bill Arnold's, the local BMW dealer parts guru, Kent, needed a new clutch in his 1991 318is. Kent obviously had access to the ETK, and did some spelunking before we took his car apart. What Kent found was a non-twin-mass flywheel (and specific clutch bits to go with it) that was theoretically available on US-spec cars without air conditioning. We guessed that this would actually be a Euro part since every US E30 we had ever seen had AC. Now, Kent claims to not have had to switch his ETK settings to ECE in order to see this part; it and the clutch bits are regular, you-can-get-them-in-the-US part numbers. Checking realoem.com, however, I only see the option for a twin-mass on M42-powered E30s. I hate to say it, but check with a friendly dealer. Cheers! Jonathan Northstar/GGC Chapters --- johngrills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 02/1991 production date, only 2 more months of > production on the US > cars, so it must have all the kinks worked out, > right? ;) > > *You Have Selected: P E30 2-T 318is M42 USA 19910200 > L M* > *Production Code: AF93, batch ID: 47305* > > > P/N for the stock flywheel is: 21211223550 for a > sweet $859.32 > > r/jpg > > Mark Gold wrote: > > Jonathan, > > > > Do you have a part number for that flywheel? If > not, which year 318i > > did that come from? Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Mark Gold > > Sacramento Valley Chapter BMWCCA > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > On Apr 16, 2007, at 7:57 AM, Jonathan Bush wrote: > > > >> John, > >> > >> I've used a euro 318i flywheel for a non-AC car > in a > >> 1991 318is and it has worked beautifully. The > euro > >> piece is not a dual-mass, and it is very light. > You > >> need to make sure your idle control valve is up > to > >> snuff, but other than that it's a bolt-on, no > mess > >> affair. > >> > >> Cheers! > >> Jonathan Bush > >> Northstar/GGC Chapters > >> > >> --- johngrills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> Gruppe: > >>> > >>> I have a S14 flywheel that I'd like to put in my > e30 > >>> 318is and help out > >>> the low end. The M20 flywheel conversion seems > to be > >>> well documented, > >>> does anyone know if the S14 flywheel can be > fitted > >>> into the M42? > >>> > >>> This 318is rehab/beater project is seemingly > never > >>> ending...latest: all > >>> cooling systems parts are new after the radiator > >>> exploded (except the > >>> heater core) and now the starter seems to be > >>> going...so, while I'm in > >>> there, might as well do the clutch and replace > the > >>> flywheel, just for > >>> grins. (and rebuild the shifter, and > transmission > >>> seals, rear main seal > >>> and and and...for $1k w/99k miles it seemed like > >>> such a great deal last > >>> summer!) > >>> > >>> cheers! > >>> > >>> John Grills > >>> NCC-BMWCCA > >>> Search the > >>> > >> > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > __________________________________________________________________________ > > >> > >>> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, > enthusiast, > >>> founder of the BMW CCA. > >>> > >>> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > >>> home of the Ultimate > >>> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > >>> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________ > >> Do You Yahoo!? > >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > >> http://mail.yahoo.com > >> Search the > >> > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________________________________ > > >> > >> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW > >> CCA. > >> > >> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > >> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > >> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > Search the > > > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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