On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 12:57:45PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:

> And here in Houston we do use AC in the middle of winter, so there are
> lots of days when the heat load from humans is pretty obvious here
> where it might not be so in other climates.  I have personally seen
> people heat a room up to miserable temperatures.  I know cuz I was
> miserable and everyone else was til we went to another room and heated
> it up. It wasnt fun at all.

Once again I will point out that you need numbers if you want to discuss
such a situation scientifically (which is the way it should be discussed
unless you are just joking)

Obvious heat load from humans? Well, Ronn gave a good example of when
it can be obvious: 30 people * 100W = 3kW in a ~ 30ft x 30ft room (I
assume without much else heat producers in it but lights, being a
classroom). For comparison, a common type of space heater is 1kW or so.

How many people were in the room where you thought it was
"obvious"? What was the area or volume of the room? Was there sunlight
coming in any windows, if so, how much power from sun?  What other
devices were in the room and how much heat were they producing? When
people moved from room to room, did they turn on/off lights, appliances,
computers, etc. when they moved? Also, 30 is bigger than 1 (this sounds
silly stated that way, but your lack of numbers is making just this
mistake). When you make an observation you can't just assume you know
the cause of the phenomenon observed, it has to be reasonable, and one
good way to check if it is reasonable is to put numbers to the various
causes and see what you get.



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