----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 10:11 AM Subject: Re: Efficiency in Genocide
> On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 09:56:33AM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > Ahhhhhh........Now I see where the problem lies. Everyone else seems to be > > thinking of single family dwellings and I am thinking on the scale of an > > arcology. > > > > Really 2 different sets of problems. > > Take Texas, divide it into regions with area about 30x30ft, put one > person in each one. Put walls and a roof around each person if you > like. That was what I was discussing. And thats why we were seeing such different outcomes. The way you were approaching the question you were perfectly right. But I note that you only get Half of Texas. (It looks like some of the calculations used All of Texas.) > > What do you mean by an arcology? One giant building. I think I incorrectly assumed that would be a requirement in the postulated problem. >A closed system? Even then, I don't > think your body heat comment makes sense. In a semiclosed enviroment such as an arcology, body heat becomes a significant factor. Not the largest factor, but one that has to be dealt with. > Total heat production would > surely be a concern in a closed system, but the average heat from > lighting, cooking, computers, etc. in a 30 x 30 ft room is several times > more than the ~100W or so from a person. A halogen lamp puts out more > heat than a person (by the way, a 30-40W compact fluorescent is a great > replacement for a halogen lamp, it uses much less power, and it produces > much less heat which is great in the summer). > Thats all true, and I hadnt gotten to that just yet, but human activity entails quite a bit of heat creation, especially if you apply modern American living standards to the problem. Another thing to consider is total surface area of all living spaces. Whether it is a minimal surface such as an arcology or an extensive surface such as the spread out living spaces most of you are talking about, it would require some pretty amazing engineering to overcome all the heat problems and to provide the power requirements of 6 billion people. xponent Wowsers Maru rob
