On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 02:20:39PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote: > Of course I cant give you numbers.
Of course you can. cant = wont > And nobody is really trying to discuss anything "scientifically", its I am. You should. This is a scientific subject, and this is a science-fiction list. > just a discussion of what it might take to accomplish something like > this. Which is exactly why it is a scientific (or engineering) discussion. > Is that sitting still or working ones ass off. Makes a BIG difference > you know. It's an average value. Treat it as order of magnitude estimate, if you like. Your original statement was off by much more than a single order of magnitude, a fact that you would have seen if you had tried some numbers. The highest numbers for aerobic activity that I've seen are in the range 500-1000 "calories" per hour for very strenuous exercise. So if you were going all out, you might be putting out as much as 1.2kW of heat. This is an overestimate, however, since not ALL of the calories go to producing heat. Also, few people could keep up that level of activity for long. > > How many people were in the room where you thought it was > > "obvious"? > > Which time? It happens a lot! Pick an example! > It amazes me that you would even question it. You need to read more carefully. I have stated several times exactly what statement of yours I dispute. You refuse to put any numbers to your discussion, so I asked you some questions to help show you where your mistake is. I never questioned that people can heat up a room. You don't seem to understand the difference between 1 and 30 or 1 and 100 or 1 and 1000. A sufficient number of people in a room (for example, 30 people in a 30ft x 30fx room) can heat it up noticeably. But how in the hell do you get from that to saying that 1 person in a 30ft x 30ft room can heat it up enough on a winter day to make it unbearable???? Numbers, please! > Its always more than one person. Usually 6 to 20 people who are > working hard with minimal lighting because the power is shut down. We > intentionally close the doors so as to contain our own heat in cold > weather and open the doors in warm weather. The smaller the room the > better obviously. We have made cold rooms warm enough for comfort > during a lunch break. Kinda makes you proud when your work makes you > comfortable like that. Finally a few numbers! So, to be equivalent to the situation originally discussed, you need to have the room be [6 to 20] * 900sq ft = [5400 to 18000 sq ft]. That's one BIG room. -- "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.erikreuter.com/
