On 2 Mar 2003 at 10:58, Robert Seeberger wrote:

> > On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 09:24:56AM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
> >
> > > You have to understand the enviromental idiom concerning weapons
> > > over here. Gun ownership is common. So common in fact that every
> > > loon already has one, and they dont have to get a permit to do so.
> > > All that is
> required
> > > is a criminal background check. This law in Brooklyn is very
> > > unusual in
> >
> > This really isn't encouraging me to come to the states, you do
> > realise
> this.
> > ;-) But even so, if they think the worst they'll get is a $100 fine,
> > I
> don't
> > think that would improve things especially.
> 
> Well......... there are something on the order of 83,000,000 gun
> owners in the US, and hardly any of them shot anybody last
> week/month/year. The fact that of all the Americans you have known,
> hardly any of them have died from gunshot wounds, and that should tell
> you something about the actual state of things here. I rarely see a
> firearm, and if I do its usually on the hip of a policeman, and rarely
> a friend will show me a new gun he has recently bought. I ***never***
> see armed soldiers.

Yeah well.

The only country I've been in where guns are common is Israel. Where 
you see armed people  (to start with off-duty soldiers, who are 
required to carry their rifles) all the time. Then...'ell, if you 
live in certain parts the old city of Jerusalem, you're *encouraged* 
to own a handgun and carry it. I know a fair few rabbis who do...

And yes, quite a few of my Isralie friends carry guns on a regular 
basis. Of course, I also can't blame em.

Only places (except twice) I've ever seen guns in the UK were at 
airports. Watched an armed police raid once and been shot at once...

Andy
Dawn Falcon

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