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From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Most Dangerous States


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> From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 3:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Most Dangerous States
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> > I wonder:  if you looked at *areas* more likely to have guns in the
> > household vs. *areas* less likely to have guns in the household, would
> > you see a noticeable difference in the crime rate in those *areas*?
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> That is an interesting, but seperate question.  When I was talking about
> areas, I was thinking less of broad areas in the state, but the difficulty
> in getting data on units as small as neighborhoods.  My reference is that
> the Woodlands, an unincorporated area of about 70k people, has 7 different
> official neighborhoods.  So, with neighborhoods in the 5k-20k size, one
> would get a lot of neighborhoods in any metro area.
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> >How about rural vs. urban areas with each characteristic?  (I think that
> gun
> > deaths are less likely with the same %age of gun owners in rural areas
> > than urban, but I may be wrong on that.)
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> I would tend to agree.  Guns that are used in hunting and are locked up,
> with the ammo locked separately take more conscious thought to use than a
> loaded gun in the drawer. One can kill someone in a split second of rage
> with the other, the former takes at least a bit of obvious effort.
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Well, there are 50 or 60 million gunowners in the US.
Compared to those numbers the number of "rage" killings is pretty minute.
"Rage" killings are still a small fraction of "reported" defense uses too.
I think there is too much focus on the negative stats and probabilities and
this blinds people to the reality of the situation.

xponent
More Facts Please Maru
rob


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