Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked:

> So please help me to convinve Alan Cox to have no ide cdrom by default.
> 
> ide cdrom is only needed if you have a pre 1993 cdrom drive.
> Using it for newer drives breakes several things.

  Without ide cdrom support the kernel must add support for an entire
SCSI subsystem, which is totally not needed on most systems. I can't see
making this a standard, most systems just don't need it.

  And after running a few tests on a 2.4.3 system with ide cdrom,
ide-scsi, ide floppy, and SCSI cdrom and tape, I was unable to generate
a failure mode even when doing things like burning from ZIP or ide cdrom
as a source. Even going from ide cdrom or ide scsi cdrom to either scsi
or ide-scsi cd writer (yes this is a very loaded system) worked, as did
writing a iso image to tape and buring from that (speed=2, 16MB fifo) to
ide-scsi.

  If there are problems in the kernel, they appear to be pretty subtle
to suggest something like dropping ide cdrom. Note, it would generate a
huge number of questions and confusion from people who barely know that
ide and scsi are not the same thing, and who would be upset if they got
SCSI messages. Saying "educate them" is easy when you don't have to do
it, but don't judge Linux users by people on this list, most just use
the computer to do work, like Windows or Mac users.

-- 
   -bill davidsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
 last possible moment - but no longer"  -me


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