[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Davidsen)
>
> >Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked:
>
> >> So please help me to convinve Alan Cox to have no ide cdrom by default.
> >>
> >> ide cdrom is only needed if you have a pre 1993 cdrom drive.
> >> Using it for newer drives breakes several things.
>
> > Without ide cdrom support the kernel must add support for an entire
> >SCSI subsystem, which is totally not needed on most systems. I can't see
> >making this a standard, most systems just don't need it.
>
> Well most systems now include CD-writers and you need a SCSI subsystem
> to make them work.
That may be true in your company, or country, or even continent, but
it sure isn't true here. Some percentage of home systems have them (adds
to the price and profit), but laptops (battery issues) and business
systems (security and piracy issues) for the most part don't include CD
burners. And in many businesses I see not everyone who has one,
particularly non-technical managers, knows they have one.
> > And after running a few tests on a 2.4.3 system with ide cdrom,
> >ide-scsi, ide floppy, and SCSI cdrom and tape, I was unable to generate
> >a failure mode even when doing things like burning from ZIP or ide cdrom
> >as a source. Even going from ide cdrom or ide scsi cdrom to either scsi
> >or ide-scsi cd writer (yes this is a very loaded system) worked, as did
> >writing a iso image to tape and buring from that (speed=2, 16MB fifo) to
> >ide-scsi.
>
> Did you ever try to write a CD on a Sony VAIO with a CDwriter connected
> to the PCcard slot?
No, just IDE and SCSI, in the combinations I listed in my original
post. I didn't try PCMCIA, USB, firewire, parallel port, IR connect, or
any of the other possible combinations, because I don't have or want
them. I did test the combinations things that were supposed to not
work, and determine that there is not a general problem, as in "this
doesn't work at all."
There may be some combination which doesn't work, when you get some
combination which doesn't work you say the application is obsolete, or
the o/s, or the CPU, or the firmware, or something. That's the way I
feel, if there is a combination which doesn't work, go to your web site
and find one that does (I bet I can find you saying just about that in
old posts).
The assumption that Linux can't do SCSI and ide-scsi and ATAPI at the
same time does not seem to be correct in most cases. That's what I was
testing, that's what I found, and people are welcome to draw any
conclusions they like.
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-bill davidsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
last possible moment - but no longer" -me
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