----- Original Message -----
From: John Stanley
To: CF-Community
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 4:31 AM
Subject: RE: Conversation Topic - Abortion
Sorry, was playing paintball and then had hockey last night so was in no
shape to type till this morning.
Yup.
Here's the kicker. I understand the arguments the pro-choice people have,
and even at some level agree with most of the issues raised, but I cant get
around the simple fact that a mother is someone who only wants to protect
and nurture their child, not have them vacuumed out.
>>What, in your opinion, should happen post-viability if the mother wants an
abortion or wants to do something that poses a risk to the baby?
>>Chemotherapy let's say? Or sky-diving? Enlistment? Driving a car?
If she wants an abortion, she cant have one. If she participates in a
dangerous event and harms the baby then I think she should face the music.
Chemo is different and any harm to the baby is a direct result of medical
treatment and not due to negligence.
-----Original Message-----
From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 2:32 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Conversation Topic - Abortion
He's an agnostic. Viability is a reasonable place to draw a line, if you
want my opinion. You could quarrel with this if so inclined, but let's not.
What, in your opinion, should happen post-viability if the mother wants an
abortion or wants to do something that poses a risk to the baby?
Chemotherapy let's say? Or sky-diving? Enlistment? Driving a car?
Feel free to jump in here, John :)
Dana
> And John, do you have a religion?
> To me its common sense that a fetus that lives inside its mother and
> cannot live outside is NOT a baby.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Stanley
> To: CF-Community
> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 3:48 PM
> Subject: RE: Conversation Topic - Abortion
>
>
> >>Dana, calling "abortion" "murdering our children" is a religious
> > concept, imo, not common sensical. A fetus is not a "child".
>
> I believe I said it was murdering children. This is not a religious
> concept
> to me. It IS common sense. If you are pregnant and you choose to end
> the
> pregnancy by abortion, then you are murdering your child. To me, life
> begins
> upon conception. There is also a double standard here, when some
> people
> argue for abortion, they claim that the fetus is not a child, but then
> when
> they get the news that their sister/cousin/friend just had a
> miscarriage,
> they rush over to confort them when they lost their baby. If it's not
> a
> baby, you should tell them on the phone, "hey, toughen up. It's not a
> baby,
> it's just a collection of cells" yeah, right.
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