Ok here is an example. Concerning Vietnam. Details may be a little sketch, but this is how it unfolded.
1. America supports Viet Minh (liberation army) during WW2 because they are fighting Japan (America ememy). 2. When WW2 is over, French seek to reclaim lost imperial territories (i.e.. Vietnam). 3. America abandons Vietnamese liberation army and decided to support the French colonial 're-invasion' (occupation) of Vietnam. 4. French find themselves fighting Viet Minh (the very people America used to support). 5. America provides 'aid' to France in the form of weapons etc but does not directly involve itself. 6. Ho Chi Minh great admirer of the American constitution sends letters to America asking it to support his own declaration of independence (for Vietnam). America ignores these letters. 7. French as losing war again Viet Min 8. As a result of being ignored by America, Ho Chi Minh seeks support from other world powers (China, Russia) and get their support. 9. Paranoid domino theory develops and America suddenly see Hi Chi Minh as a threat fearing that other countries will 'fall' to the communists. In reality, Ho Chi Minh is really just a nationalist looking to liberate his country and declare independence (sound familiar... America).10. Increase support to the French. 11. French lose decisive battle and proceeds to withdraw completely from Vietnam 12. The Geneva Accords divide Vietnam in half at the 17th parallel 13. US setup 'puppet' government in the south lead by Ngo Dinh Diem. 14. Geneva accord which stipulated a general (country wide) unifying elections is reject by Diem with US backing (in other words, there is no way US will allow a democratic election because of overwhelming support for Ho Chi Minh would mean they would lose control of south Vietnam. 15. The armed revolution begins as Ho Chi Minh declares a People's War to unite all of Vietnam under his leadership. 16. America commits military forces to 'protect' their puppet government out of cold war paranoia... Skip to 1971: Total American deaths in Vietnam surpass 45,000 Estimated indo-Chinese dead: 4 million Does this sound like the work of a just and moral country? Inside CIA personal speculate that if the US had of supported Ho Chi Minh's declaration of independence, the Vietnam war would have been entirely unnecessary because Ho Chi Minh would have been an ally. All because the US was more interested in allowing France to re-occupy a former colony in our to restore they pride and power after losing to the Nazis in WW2. Other examples. Suddam Hussein was financed by the CIA during the Iraq/Iran 10 year conflict because at the time, Iran was an enemy of the US Bin Laden was financed by the US during the soviet occupation of Afghanistan. The US has a history of abandoning former allies when they are no longer useful (unless of course you are a large European colonial superpower in which case your safe because the US wont go against you because their economy is dependant on your). If anyone ever tells me the US went in to liberated Kuwait for justice and liberty, they must be on drugs. That was a war over OIL prices. If there was no oil in Kuwait, America would have done nothing. If anyone ever tells me the US uphold global democracy and fight in the name of liberty, I just cite Neapolitan. He fought in the name of liberty as well. Enough for now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angel Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 9:38 AM Subject: RE: The Anti Terrorism Act.. > I'm listening.And learning :) > It is good to see differing, even sometimes radical, opinions expressed. > > So don't stop now..this has the potential to be an interesting discussion. > > BUt just to throw something out there... > > Someone told me today that part of Bin Laden's goal is/was to prevent America from 'taking over' the world. > It seems that there is a growing feeling amongst muslims that American Capitalism, and morals or lack thereof, will > 'takeover' their traditions and their way of life (such as it is), and that this must be stopped at all costs. This person > believes that America is actively seeking to Rule The World and to increase its powerbase and influence throughout the world > through economic forces, military maneuvers and its 'foreign policy'. She said something about Manifest Destiny from the > 1950s rearing its head all over again (anyone know what that is?). SHe also agreed with Falloon when she said that she did > not know of any single time in History when America intervened somewhere militarily against its National Interests (and this > includes Political interest of the then leader) or when it had nothing to gain from that military conflict. In otherwords it > has never used its influence or its forces in any region of the world simply to promote democracy, Freedom, or the American > Way.She claimed that despite what the majority of Americans seem to think, and actually believe that htey are the great > protectors of Democracy and Freedom in the world, that they would never agree to American lives being lost somewhere simply > to assure Freedom and a better way of life for a people, especially if that people were non-white. > > Any thoughts on all this? > > I told her she was full of sh**, but I'd get back to her on that tomorrow and ran out of the office ^_^. > > -Gel > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > If I appear to have "anti-American blinders" on that only because I'm > out-number in this board 10-1. Therefore I have to push this perspective a > little more feverishly. > > I'm not saying that american is responsible for all of the worlds ills. To > say this would be folly and never once have I said this. I wish people would > stop drawing this conclusion. > > My point is very simple. The balance of power in the world is far too in > favour of the States and not by a small margin either. By a great divide. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
