That wasn't my phrase. I was referring to the previous post. But I also sense that you're nit-picking, being unable to rise to intelligent debate.
You've got a real chip on your shoulder. I think you've been feed too much leftist propaganda. At least that's the impression you leave. H. -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:29 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: The Anti Terrorism Act.. well. God bless america. Even the 'non-whites' as you call them. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:30 PM Subject: RE: The Anti Terrorism Act.. > Manifest Destiny is a term that dates back to the 1850s. It's a term that > was coined by expansionists after the Louisiana Purchase. Manifest means > "evident." The term meant it was the U.S.'s inevitable destiny, God-given, > really, to expand from coast to coast. It was the rally cry that sent > pioneers west. > > I would ask your friend, why would we engage in a war not in our best > interests? Seems kind of ludicrous to expect us to, doesn't? As for > engaging in war purely in the interest of democracy and freedom, see my post > on WWII. Other conflicts spring to mind, but I don't know much about those, > so I'll keep quiet. I'm sure if I say something, somebody will mention some > U.S. company that owned some borax mine or something. Fact is, in just about > any country, you make an economic justification for U.S. involvement, so > many of our companies have such far reaching interests. We've also stuck > our neck out a few times for non-whites, but again, I'm not educated enough > on the details to give locations and dates. But I can think of a couple that > just maybe we had no economic interest. > > H. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 4:39 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: The Anti Terrorism Act.. > > > I'm listening.And learning :) > It is good to see differing, even sometimes radical, opinions expressed. > > So don't stop now..this has the potential to be an interesting discussion. > > BUt just to throw something out there... > > Someone told me today that part of Bin Laden's goal is/was to prevent > America from 'taking over' the world. > It seems that there is a growing feeling amongst muslims that American > Capitalism, and morals or lack thereof, will > 'takeover' their traditions and their way of life (such as it is), and that > this must be stopped at all costs. This person > believes that America is actively seeking to Rule The World and to increase > its powerbase and influence throughout the world > through economic forces, military maneuvers and its 'foreign policy'. She > said something about Manifest Destiny from the > 1950s rearing its head all over again (anyone know what that is?). SHe also > agreed with Falloon when she said that she did > not know of any single time in History when America intervened somewhere > militarily against its National Interests (and this > includes Political interest of the then leader) or when it had nothing to > gain from that military conflict. In otherwords it > has never used its influence or its forces in any region of the world simply > to promote democracy, Freedom, or the American > Way.She claimed that despite what the majority of Americans seem to think, > and actually believe that htey are the great > protectors of Democracy and Freedom in the world, that they would never > agree to American lives being lost somewhere simply > to assure Freedom and a better way of life for a people, especially if that > people were non-white. > > Any thoughts on all this? > > I told her she was full of sh**, but I'd get back to her on that tomorrow > and ran out of the office ^_^. > > -Gel > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > If I appear to have "anti-American blinders" on that only because I'm > out-number in this board 10-1. Therefore I have to push this perspective a > little more feverishly. > > I'm not saying that american is responsible for all of the worlds ills. To > say this would be folly and never once have I said this. I wish people would > stop drawing this conclusion. > > My point is very simple. The balance of power in the world is far too in > favour of the States and not by a small margin either. By a great divide. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
