I can't talk to you. your brainwashed.

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To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:53 PM
Subject: RE: The Anti Terrorism Act..


> That wasn't my phrase.  I was referring to the previous post.  But I also
> sense that you're nit-picking, being unable to rise to intelligent debate.
>
> You've got a real chip on your shoulder. I think you've been feed too much
> leftist propaganda. At least that's the impression you leave.
>
> H.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:29 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: The Anti Terrorism Act..
>
>
> well. God bless america. Even the 'non-whites' as you call them.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:30 PM
> Subject: RE: The Anti Terrorism Act..
>
>
> > Manifest Destiny is a term that dates back to the 1850s.  It's a term
that
> > was coined by expansionists after the Louisiana Purchase. Manifest means
> > "evident." The term meant it was the U.S.'s inevitable destiny,
God-given,
> > really, to expand from coast to coast. It was the rally cry that sent
> > pioneers west.
> >
> > I would ask your friend, why would we engage in a war not in our best
> > interests?  Seems kind of ludicrous to expect us to, doesn't?  As for
> > engaging in war purely in the interest of democracy and freedom, see my
> post
> > on WWII. Other conflicts spring to mind, but I don't know much about
> those,
> > so I'll keep quiet. I'm sure if I say something, somebody will mention
> some
> > U.S. company that owned some borax mine or something. Fact is, in just
> about
> > any country, you make an economic justification for U.S. involvement, so
> > many of our companies have such far reaching interests.  We've also
stuck
> > our neck out a few times for non-whites, but again, I'm not educated
> enough
> > on the details to give locations and dates. But I can think of a couple
> that
> > just maybe we had no economic interest.
> >
> > H.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 4:39 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: The Anti Terrorism Act..
> >
> >
> > I'm listening.And learning :)
> > It is good to see differing, even sometimes radical, opinions expressed.
> >
> > So don't stop now..this has the potential to be an interesting
discussion.
> >
> > BUt just to throw something out there...
> >
> > Someone told me today that part of Bin Laden's goal is/was to prevent
> > America from 'taking over' the world.
> > It seems that there is a growing feeling amongst muslims that American
> > Capitalism, and morals or lack thereof, will
> > 'takeover' their traditions and their way of life (such as it is), and
> that
> > this must be stopped at all costs. This person
> > believes that America is actively seeking to Rule The World and to
> increase
> > its powerbase and influence throughout the world
> > through economic forces, military maneuvers and its 'foreign policy'.
She
> > said something about Manifest Destiny from the
> > 1950s rearing its head all over again (anyone know what that is?). SHe
> also
> > agreed with Falloon when she said that she did
> > not know of any single time in History when America intervened somewhere
> > militarily against its National Interests (and this
> > includes Political interest of the then leader) or when it had nothing
to
> > gain from that military conflict. In otherwords it
> > has never used its influence or its forces in any region of the world
> simply
> > to promote democracy, Freedom, or the American
> > Way.She claimed that despite what the majority of Americans seem to
think,
> > and actually believe that htey are the great
> > protectors of Democracy and Freedom in the world, that they would never
> > agree to American lives being lost somewhere simply
> > to assure Freedom and a better way of life for a people, especially if
> that
> > people were non-white.
> >
> > Any thoughts on all this?
> >
> > I told her she was full of sh**, but I'd get back to her on that
tomorrow
> > and ran out of the office ^_^.
> >
> > -Gel
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >
> > If I appear to have "anti-American blinders" on that only because I'm
> > out-number in this board 10-1. Therefore I have to push this perspective
a
> > little more feverishly.
> >
> > I'm not saying that american is responsible for all of the worlds ills.
To
> > say this would be folly and never once have I said this. I wish people
> would
> > stop drawing this conclusion.
> >
> > My point is very simple. The balance of power in the world is far too in
> > favour of the States and not by a small margin either. By a great
divide.
> >
> >
> >
>
> 
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