> US becomes involved in Vietnam to protect tin and tungsten interests of US > corporations.
Have you got some more information on this. I'd love to research this. > Millions of citizens of the US opposed the war in Vietnam. Don't make the > same mistake as a lot of people are doing now regarding Afghanistan by > confusing the actions of a government with the actions of the people. Of course. If the people didn't speak the atrocities would have continued but it took years before opposition grew and made a difference, and many millions dead. What alarms me is the 'general' impression I get when speaking with amerians on the current issue. I think only a small minority of people oppose war. When I find a person that doesn't support it that gives me hope but so far I haven't found many. > I have serious difficulty believing any US action was based on preserving > the pride of the French. That's almost laughable. How about restoring the old world order then. Is that more suitable, although I still prefer the former comment. > All wars are wars of economics. Liberty, freedom, nationalism, etc..are > just the props governments use to influence the masses. We know that, and > while the initial response to the attacks on New York was a lot of flag > waving and calls for retaliation, cooler heads have prevailed. I wouldn't nessasarily use that word. I'd say more 'calculating' rather than 'cooler'... It may be premature to comment on this... > If the country of the United States was as immoral as you suggest, we'd own > the middle east, and Iraq and Afghanistan would be glowing glass. You brought up a good point in distinguisting the govenment from the country. But I wouldn't over-estimate America's power. Russia spend 10 years in Afghanistan and what did they achieve? Benjamin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 12:05 PM Subject: Re: The Anti Terrorism Act.. > At 11:38 AM 10/3/01 Benjamin wrote: > >Ok here is an example. Concerning Vietnam. Details may be a little sketch, > >but this is how it unfolded. > > US becomes involved in Vietnam to protect tin and tungsten interests of US > corporations. > > > >Skip to 1971: Total American deaths in Vietnam surpass 45,000 Estimated > >indo-Chinese dead: 4 million > > > >Does this sound like the work of a just and moral country? > > Millions of citizens of the US opposed the war in Vietnam. Don't make the > same mistake as a lot of people are doing now regarding Afghanistan by > confusing the actions of a government with the actions of the people. > > >Inside CIA personal speculate that if the US had of supported Ho Chi Minh's > >declaration of independence, the Vietnam war would have been entirely > >unnecessary because Ho Chi Minh would have been an ally. All because the US > >was more interested in allowing France to re-occupy a former colony in our > >to restore they pride and power after losing to the Nazis in WW2. > > I have serious difficulty believing any US action was based on preserving > the pride of the French. That's almost laughable. > > >If anyone ever tells me the US went in to liberated Kuwait for justice and > >liberty, they must be on drugs. That was a war over OIL prices. If there was > >no oil in Kuwait, America would have done nothing. > > All wars are wars of economics. Liberty, freedom, nationalism, etc..are > just the props governments use to influence the masses. We know that, and > while the initial response to the attacks on New York was a lot of flag > waving and calls for retaliation, cooler heads have prevailed. > > If the country of the United States was as immoral as you suggest, we'd own > the middle east, and Iraq and Afghanistan would be glowing glass. > > There is an old saying: My country, right or wrong. > and a much later quote that I will append to it: > > When right, to be kept right. > When wrong, to be put right. > > Maureen > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
