Well ain't that the pot calling the kettle black. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benjamin Falloon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 12:46 AM Subject: Re: The Anti Terrorism Act..
> I can't talk to you. your brainwashed. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:53 PM > Subject: RE: The Anti Terrorism Act.. > > > > That wasn't my phrase. I was referring to the previous post. But I also > > sense that you're nit-picking, being unable to rise to intelligent debate. > > > > You've got a real chip on your shoulder. I think you've been feed too much > > leftist propaganda. At least that's the impression you leave. > > > > H. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:29 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: The Anti Terrorism Act.. > > > > > > well. God bless america. Even the 'non-whites' as you call them. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:30 PM > > Subject: RE: The Anti Terrorism Act.. > > > > > > > Manifest Destiny is a term that dates back to the 1850s. It's a term > that > > > was coined by expansionists after the Louisiana Purchase. Manifest means > > > "evident." The term meant it was the U.S.'s inevitable destiny, > God-given, > > > really, to expand from coast to coast. It was the rally cry that sent > > > pioneers west. > > > > > > I would ask your friend, why would we engage in a war not in our best > > > interests? Seems kind of ludicrous to expect us to, doesn't? As for > > > engaging in war purely in the interest of democracy and freedom, see my > > post > > > on WWII. Other conflicts spring to mind, but I don't know much about > > those, > > > so I'll keep quiet. I'm sure if I say something, somebody will mention > > some > > > U.S. company that owned some borax mine or something. Fact is, in just > > about > > > any country, you make an economic justification for U.S. involvement, so > > > many of our companies have such far reaching interests. We've also > stuck > > > our neck out a few times for non-whites, but again, I'm not educated > > enough > > > on the details to give locations and dates. But I can think of a couple > > that > > > just maybe we had no economic interest. > > > > > > H. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 4:39 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: The Anti Terrorism Act.. > > > > > > > > > I'm listening.And learning :) > > > It is good to see differing, even sometimes radical, opinions expressed. > > > > > > So don't stop now..this has the potential to be an interesting > discussion. > > > > > > BUt just to throw something out there... > > > > > > Someone told me today that part of Bin Laden's goal is/was to prevent > > > America from 'taking over' the world. > > > It seems that there is a growing feeling amongst muslims that American > > > Capitalism, and morals or lack thereof, will > > > 'takeover' their traditions and their way of life (such as it is), and > > that > > > this must be stopped at all costs. This person > > > believes that America is actively seeking to Rule The World and to > > increase > > > its powerbase and influence throughout the world > > > through economic forces, military maneuvers and its 'foreign policy'. > She > > > said something about Manifest Destiny from the > > > 1950s rearing its head all over again (anyone know what that is?). SHe > > also > > > agreed with Falloon when she said that she did > > > not know of any single time in History when America intervened somewhere > > > militarily against its National Interests (and this > > > includes Political interest of the then leader) or when it had nothing > to > > > gain from that military conflict. In otherwords it > > > has never used its influence or its forces in any region of the world > > simply > > > to promote democracy, Freedom, or the American > > > Way.She claimed that despite what the majority of Americans seem to > think, > > > and actually believe that htey are the great > > > protectors of Democracy and Freedom in the world, that they would never > > > agree to American lives being lost somewhere simply > > > to assure Freedom and a better way of life for a people, especially if > > that > > > people were non-white. > > > > > > Any thoughts on all this? > > > > > > I told her she was full of sh**, but I'd get back to her on that > tomorrow > > > and ran out of the office ^_^. > > > > > > -Gel > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Benjamin Falloon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > If I appear to have "anti-American blinders" on that only because I'm > > > out-number in this board 10-1. Therefore I have to push this perspective > a > > > little more feverishly. > > > > > > I'm not saying that american is responsible for all of the worlds ills. > To > > > say this would be folly and never once have I said this. I wish people > > would > > > stop drawing this conclusion. > > > > > > My point is very simple. The balance of power in the world is far too in > > > favour of the States and not by a small margin either. By a great > divide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
