For one thing I never said it was OK to kill innocents. All I said is that
it will happen regardless of how careful they are. 

Since I am not a Christian, (made that decision in my first year at a
theological seminary), I am not too concerned how a semi-mythical person
would have acted or reacted to something he could not have even conceived of
over 2000 years ago.

The Taliban were given a choice, they made theirs and are now having to deal
with the consequences. Mind you I did not expect those heretical Islamics
(heretical to Islam that is)to decide differently, they and al-queda are
almost Siamese twins.

larry

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary P. McNeel, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 3:32 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: How long?
> 
> 
> I truly, truly feel sorry for people with the attitude that 
> it is okay to
> kill innocent people. How pathetic is that attitude. Yes, 
> innocents will get
> killed. It happens. But this will continue to escalate. The 
> world is a far
> different place than a John Wayne movie (and yes, I do enjoy 
> watching them,
> but I know they are fantasy, just my inner kid feeling some 
> nostalgia).
> 
> In them it is usually black and white, no shades of gray. 
> Only, there are
> many, many shades of gray. I like the idea or "theirs" and 
> "ours". "Theirs"
> must not love their children, wives, husbands, parents, etc. 
> We love "ours".
> "They" must not feel pain or regret. "We" do.
> 
> This all sounds very Christian. I wonder what Christ would 
> say about all
> this? "We should nuke them, the heathens." What do they say 
> in church? I
> don't attend, agnostic, but I have to wonder. How do you 
> reconcile this to
> the Bible (there must be a way, it is written so cyclically 
> that they must
> have found some way to cover-their-asses).
> 
> -Gary
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marcus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:25 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: How long?
> >
> >
> > this is war... In war, sometimes innocents get killed...
> >
> > But in war, we kill in order to save our own innocents. 
> Such as the ones
> > lost on 9-11, and the ones threatened now.
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> > > Please, this is happening all of the world. They are just in the
> > > spotlight.
> > >
> > > Look a Rwanda a few years ago (and still a bit today), 
> the Kurds in Iraq
> > > (who we did NOT support in their revolt against Hussein 
> after saying we
> > > would), the Khmer Rouge years ago (Pol Pot), Bosnia 
> (Milosevic), etc,
> > > etc....
> > >
> > > The world is full of atrocities. Advocating nukes is not 
> the answer. All
> > > nuking Afghanistan or Iraq would do is make a lot of pretty glass
> > > and kill a
> > > bunch of innocent people.
> > >
> > 
> 
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