No, we did support them briefly and pulled out. Yes, there was documentary.
We bailed on them. We told them we would support them. They began attacking
in the north and made headway. Later, we withdrew all support. We did not
give them air support. Hussein's men came in in choppers and ground assault
(tanks) and tore them up, running them bank into Turkey. That is why they do
not trust us now.

-Gary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 1:03 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: How long?
>
>
> Gary, we DID support the Kurds after the Gulf War. It was a covert
> operation that involved some branches of the military and the CIA - it
> wasn't a huge success, obviously. I know this because a guy in my unit
> was involved (he spoke Arabic very well). This is all public knowledge
> now (or I wouldn't have said it). I think there was a story about it on
> Discovery or something.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary P. McNeel, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:19 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: How long?
>
>
> Please, this is happening all of the world. They are just in the
> spotlight.
>
> Look a Rwanda a few years ago (and still a bit today), the Kurds in Iraq
> (who we did NOT support in their revolt against Hussein after saying we
> would), the Khmer Rouge years ago (Pol Pot), Bosnia (Milosevic), etc,
> etc....
>
> The world is full of atrocities. Advocating nukes is not the answer. All
> nuking Afghanistan or Iraq would do is make a lot of pretty glass and
> kill a
> bunch of innocent people.
>
> -Gary
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:28 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: How long?
> >
> >
> > Sorry but I equate the Taliban with Nazis, there is only one effective
> way
> > to deal with them. Against almost any one else I'd be advocating
> > alternative
> > means but not for these. They have a record that is truly
> > horrific. You need
> > to read the reports on the Taliban by Amnesty International and
> > Human Rights
> > Watch to know the depths that these people have gone.
> >
> > larry
> >
> > --
> > Larry C. Lyons
> > ColdFusion/Web Developer
> > EBStor.com
> > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> > tel:   (703) 393-7930
> > fax:   (703) 393-2659
> > Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
> >        http://www.pacel.com
> > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> > --
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:16 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: How long?
> > >
> > >
> > > hmphhh.....
> > >
> > > not really what i meant larry...
> > >
> > > will
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 02 November 2001 15:14
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: How long?
> > >
> > >
> > > Agreed. Maybe its time to start dropping Fuel Air Explosives
> > > on those caves.
> > >
> > > larry
> > >
> > > --
> > > Larry C. Lyons
> > > ColdFusion/Web Developer
> > > EBStor.com
> > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> > > tel:   (703) 393-7930
> > > fax:   (703) 393-2659
> > > Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
> > >        http://www.pacel.com
> > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> > > --
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:02 AM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: RE: How long?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > well then maybe a change of tactics is whats required?
> > > >
> > > > will
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: 02 November 2001 14:57
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: RE: How long?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Its rather hard to make an impact on someone who doesn't give
> > > > a damn for
> > > > their own people, while they are in caves with hundreds of
> > > > feet of bedrock
> > > > above them.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps if the Taliban were directly affected (i.e.. the
> > > > leadership) things
> > > > would be different.
> > > >
> > > > larry
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Larry C. Lyons
> > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer
> > > > EBStor.com
> > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> > > > tel:   (703) 393-7930
> > > > fax:   (703) 393-2659
> > > > Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
> > > >        http://www.pacel.com
> > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:51 AM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: How long?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > How long does it take a Superpower to bomb a third-world
> > > > > country into submission?  We've been bombing Afghanistan
> > > > > since Oct 7 - I
> > > > > would have thought it would be over by now.  Here it is,
> > > > > November 2, and we don't seem any closer to an end.  What
> > > > > concerns me is
> > > > > that there are some who think that Iraq may have been
> > > > > involved and may be the target of the next campaign.   Iraq
> > > > > has a much better
> > > > > military than Afghanistan so how long would that one take?
> > > > > And, a campaign against Iraq would be completely different
> > > > > that the Gulf
> > > > > war because we wouldn't stop short of going into Baghdad
> > > this time.
> > > > >
> > > > > On a side note - I guess the people of Vieques are happy that
> > > > > the US Navy has moved on to bombing Afghanistan...
> > > > >
> > > > > Howie
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> 
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