Even if you had the evidence, would it make a difference?  Funny how you 
support a course of action that, by your own admission, wouldn't have 
worked.  Then what? What if we did take that course of action that you 
suggest and the results were as you predicted?  We gather indisputable 
evidence and present it to the Taliban, an organization that only 
Pakistan has recognized as having authority in Afghanistan, and they 
still refused to turn him over.  What then Gary?  

As for what Christ would say, how could you even ask that since you 
don't believe in his existence anyways?  You want to ask someone that, 
in your own admission, doesn't exist, what he would say about this?  I 
got an idea, lets ask Mickey Mouse what he would think?  He holds the 
same status to you that Christ does.  I don't know what Christ would 
say.  The Catholic church says that engaging in this war is not 
consistent with His teachings and that we shouldn't partake in it (I've 
now opened the door for you to bash the Catholic Church now).  I 
disagree, but isn't that the way of free will.  I'm willing to answer 
for that.

I'll put this to you Gary; Is it possible that it could also be some 
left-wing group responsible for the Anthrax attacks too?  There are some 
pretty militant environmentalists out there.  Don't forget The 
anti-capitalist, anti-globalist extremists that rioted in Seattle and 
destroyed how many millions of dollars in public property protesting the 
WTO? The name of the organization escapes me, but there is an 
environmental organization right now in the Pacific Northwest burning 
down houses that are under construction because they protest the homes 
being built there.  Could it be them?  Of course it could, but I don't 
see you pointing them out.  Seems pretty disingenuous to me.  Unless you 
approve of what they do. Do you?

I know that you really dislike conservatives and conservatism, but don't 
let that prevent you from being honest about these sort of things.  
Maybe I'm just being arrogant again.

Michael Corrigan
Programmer

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gary P. McNeel, Jr. 
  To: CF-Community 
  Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 2:35 PM
  Subject: RE: How long?


  What "ample" evidence. I want to see it. I am not saying it is not 
true, I
  want to see it in a court of law, which is how we should have pursued 
this
  in the first place. Gather evidence, get the bad guys, have a trial. 
The
  Taliban even offered to give him to us if we could supply good 
evidence. I
  guess it was not convincing. (snicker, don't get me wrong, there is 
little
  doubt in my mind they would have given him to us regardless, the trial 
would
  be in absentia.)

  -Gary

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:30 AM
  > To: CF-Community
  > Subject: RE: How long?
  >
  >
  > At the same time however, there is ample evidence that Al-Queda
  > was involved
  > in the 9-11 atrocities. And the main prop to the Taleban has been
  > Al-Queda.
  > the 055 Regiment, which is funded by Bin-Laden and Al-Queda and 
manned by
  > Al-Queda personnel is the best unit in the Taleban military. The
  > two groups
  > are so hand in glove that they are almost the same. Hence there is 
ample
  > justification to go after the Taleban.
  >
  > larry
  >
  > --
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  > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
  > --
  >
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: Neil Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:23 AM
  > > To: CF-Community
  > > Subject: RE: How long?
  > >
  > >
  > > Here here Gary!
  > >
  > > but Nick, so America are correct in bombing Afghanistan?  Bombing 
a
  > > relatively barren country is protecting the US? hmm? I think
  > > you are living
  > > in a world of fantasy about the place your country is holding
  > > in the world
  > > today and what right does your have the right as a country to
  > > dicate the
  > > fate or paths of the world.....other nations suffer
  > > atrocities etc.... oh
  > > but they are not civilised are they? :-)
  > >
  > > A thread a while ago springs to mind - what if the IRA or ETA
  > > decided to
  > > "declare a [war]" on the US - would you bomb the UK, Ireland
  > > and Spain?
  > >
  > > Delusions of grandure methinks.  Wake up and realise that
  > > something is wrong
  > > with the way the US (and ahem, some of its citizens) are
  > > acting.  I can
  > > probably say that my colleagues and for people around me in
  > > the UK, what
  > > started out as hate and disgust about Sept 11 has now turned
  > > to shock and
  > > horrer about how the US is dealing with it - "Gung Ho" as
  > > someone stated.
  > >
  > > I 100% agree that we should not harbour nor let terrorists
  > > get away with
  > > their acts, but I certainly dont agree in open bombing willy
  > > nilly - just
  > > because you think "you can".
  > >
  > > I have been to Kabul and it was a wreck then - all you are
  > > doing is breaking
  > > up a whole load of rubble!! but I suppose on that scale if
  > > your gonna blow
  > > up rubble you may as well bomb it up with a laser guided bomb
  > > - I think
  > > every kid should have one.......get them one for Xmas and
  > > maybe they can
  > > defend their own backyards..... jeez theres a market there -
  > > bollox to this
  > > internet lark..........<door shuts......>
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > 
  
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