I am going off of personal experience here. We have two bird dogs that spent 3 months each in hunting school (they are Labs) and were not trained with treats at any time. Nor tennis balls or anything else. In fact, these dogs don't know what anything tastes like except their regular food. My sister's dog on the other hand (another lab from the same father, different mother) was sent to "obedience" training. I sat in on some classes and it was all I could do to keep from laughing. They used treats and the "talk nice to them, don't raise your voice, they are sensitive" type training. Well, her dog is pretty much useless. He does not listen to squat you say, just does what he wants. Meanwhile, the two dogs we have here come to you when you say here, heel when told, sit when told, does not go after birds until you tell them OK, brings them back, heels and sits, and gently holds the bird until you say give. And when they have their mouth on something that they are not supposed to, just say leave it and they drop whatever it is they have and they come to you and sit (they don't know the command lay because the trainer and we figure that if they are tired, they will lay down). And if you blow a whistle, they will come as well.
OH, and one of the labs that we have here was owned by my sister as well. She sent her to the same training as the useless one. Well when my sister gave her to my mom, she did not listen to shit (which is why she did not want her). Did what she wanted. Sent her to hunting school and she is a damned good dog now. They may not win any trophies at a show, but we don't care. They are a damn fine pair of bird dogs. -----Original Message----- From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:12 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Dog questions ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:244036 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
