On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > Because if someone is willing to plan, torture, and kill animals over
> > and over again - for fun! - it's only a matter of time before that's a
> > person.
>
> Really?  I am sure you have studies which show this 'progression'.
>
> I don't but the humane society does.

http://www.hsus.org/acf/cruelty/publiced/domestic_violence_cruelty.html

Mind, I don't really want to engage on Kenedy's behalf here. Dead is dead if
you're the victim, as you point out. However, I think we agree that he did
not get up that morning and say hey I think I will drown one of my
volunteers today, right? So however cowardly or criminal his behavior may
have been, it was not deliberate, right? It was a huge and shameful fuckup.
But it was a fuckup.

Meanwhile the dogfighting -- I have stayed out of that so far because I
ignore football and had never heard of Vick befor he got busted. I don't
like to get gushy about animals, thos since we are on the subject I will
mention that I used to foster dogs when I had the yard for it and probably
saved several from euthanasia given how dysfunctional the city shelter is
here. With that out of the way, I find that dogfighting does require
planning and yes cruelty. At best the man did not think it was wrong, and
the question then becomes why would he not. It seems to denote a lack of
empathy.

Don't mind me though. I realize you two are having fun and I am bringing
reasonableness to a pissing contest ;)


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