On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Sam wrote:
>
> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:10 PM, denstar wrote:
>>> Nobody cares that they're doing it. They just don't want to share the
>>> word. Abortion is about when life begins, that's a different fight. We
>>> all care3 about life, when it starts is the dispute.
>>
>> "Nobody cares" is blatantly false.  Have you seen some of the stuff a
>> *lot* of R's have been saying about The Gays?  How many D's say shit
>> like that?
>
> No. I don't follow the looking for faults I can label teh entire group with.

LOL!  =)

Anyways tho:  we're talking about the two groups, in general.

Neither one, nor myself, are perfect.

>> How is it ok to fry criminals (even though our justice system is
>> flawed, so we could be (and are) frying innocents), when life is so
>> sacred?  How is it ok to go to war before we've exhausted all the
>> other options, if life is so important?
>
> I thought we did exhaust all options. Ten years worth.

O.o

Ignoring the idea that we had no option besides a war with Iraq, what
about the death penalty?

>> Obama was not the only Democrat running, was he?  It was nice to vote
>> for someone, instead of against someone else.  I liked Ron Paul too.
>> LOL.  Ah, life.
>
> For president yes he was. Ron Paul is a truther. Does that hurt?

I remember several Democrats running for president.  One from my own
state, even.

...
>> I'm pretty sure there are Democratic deals where you can't get in
>> unless you sign a form saying you agree with everybody else there.
>> Not.
>
> Ever try going to an Obama rally?

I walked over to one from my house.  Took the wife and wee one.  It was swell!

Didn't have to sign a damn thing.

>> I'm not the one saying he has all the answers.
>
> I don't have all the answers, but if you're going the wrong way turn
> around, at least ask directions. I'm pretty sure like 80% of
> economists, maybe everbody except Krugman, thinks we're doing it
> wrong. Most of Europe realized we were going the wrong way and are now
> in recovery.

You also think anthropological global warming is a global conspiracy.

80% of everybody probably has shit they'd like to see done different,
but that doesn't mean that they feel the entire premise is incorrect.

>> Isn't is "sluggishly" moving up now?
>
> No. You mean people are still buying food?

Haven't you noticed the head hunting picked up again?  For a while
there, it was like tumbleweeds blowing by.

>> Yes, and I *love* Obama.  You are the one dealing in absolutes, not I.
>
> You judge people that don't agree he's a great president.

You judge people who say he doesn't suck.  Folk can't even give
constructive criticism without you jumping in to say, no, he's like,
the worst thing evah, and a /Socialist!/, ta boot.

Show me where I've -- besides with you and Jerry and Rob (who are
totally extremists as far as Obama goes) -- done anything of the sort.

>>> He's the man making the decisions that effect all the people around me.
>>
>> Really?
>
> OK, his puppet masters if you want. He's giving the orders, I don't
> know where he gets them from, I assume they are his.

Yeah!  And Bush, all by himself, was responsible for all the shit that
went down over those 8 years.

>> You don't want to, because you are infatuated with Obama.
>
> When did you ever criticize Obama on this list except when prompted by me?

Obama?  I dunno.  Probably when talking about something I'd heard
about from the EFF.  Or agreeing with Judah or Maureen on some
critique.

I'm *way* more likely to not to link that stuff to one man, as I care
about it (kinda), and recognize that the President only has so much
power.

The problem isn't the President, per se, it's *us*, generally not giving a shit.

:Den

-- 
Man is but a reed, the most feeble thing in nature, but he is a thinking reed.
Blaise

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