On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Sam wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:10 AM, denstar wrote: > >>> I don't think so. Ever read Kos or Dowd of huffpo? >> >> Nope. I'm more of a PBS guy. And on PBS, they said one of the things >> hurting the Republicans was all the hate speech they were spewing. > > But... they didn't give examples.
They didn't? I remember two in specific: "Gays are gay by choice", and "I can't tell the difference between Asians and Latinos". BTW, I just got that huffpo is huffingtonpost, I have read stuff there before. >> The PBS folks said it a little nicer though. =) >> (Queue the cries of how left-leaning PBS is.) > > What did they say about all the Hitler mustaches on Bush or the Bush chimp? > How about Senator Helmes or his grand-kids should die of AIDS? How > about Sarah Palin and her son? What did they say about CBS cleaving a > message about finding a child molester at a Miller rally and making > that news? Candidates for the Democratic party were doing that? The "quotes" above about the gays and Asians/Latinos were from the Republican candidates themselves. >> Heh. I'm thinking there wasn't much hate to find, or it would have been >> posted. > > There is if you look for it. Maybe at an anti-war rally. Hell, dude, we almost had riots right here in 2000-something (real uprising type stuff, not exactly weak tea). Find me some comments from the comedycentral rally on par with the comments at the Beck rally. And note, @ the Beck rally, people were specifically asked to "keep it positive", so to speak. >> Come on man, why do you even try to argue this? I mean, I can see why >> you'd want to rationalize that your side wasn't hate-filled, as it's >> your side, but still. =)p > > My eyes are open. There's fringe on both sides, your side use them as > propaganda, we don't. Your side fucking *runs* on them! Do you not see the difference? >>>> Of the two messages, which was more nutty? Which one preached love, >>>> and which one preached hate? > > One was a comedy event with Ozzy and that fatwah guy. Why are you > comparing them? A host of reasons, obviously, the least of which being that they had similar goals. >> The Beck one was about love? Seemed to me to be more about Religion. >> Which isn't exactly all inclusive. > > What are you going to point to the crusades now and say that's why the > rally wasn't about love? No, once again I'm going to point to the different types of rhetoric. For a bunch of people that literally preach love, that Beck rally had some real winners. >> Beck's said America sucks, and needs to be "restored", and Stewat's >> said AMERICA, FUCK YEAH! >> (I've been speaking in Sam dialect for these conversations, obviously. >> We all love America, right?) > > Too many want it changed. The beauty, and terror, of our system, is that they can. And have. "I remember". =) >> Which one, honestly, do you think he would have supported? > > He was a republican you know/ He was also very serious about what he > was trying to accomplish. I know it's a joke to you but not to > everyone. You think Stewart was joking when he urged people to see past their differences? That mainstream media is a big part of the polarization problem? You think, that because I use comedic effect, I think this is all a joke? >> Maybe you should edit this Wikipedia page: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalty_oath#Republican_party > > Why does that offend you knowing how crazy the left is? The constant > bleating during speeches to drown out the speaker. The Hitler mustache > posters and who know what code pink will do. I never said the left wasn't crazy. Or that it never preaches hate. Again though, we're talking generalities here, and I think you'll be hard pressed to find as many Democrats who say shit like "Muslims are evil", &c. Less Democratic candidates(!) who talk trash about Gay people, or immigrants, &c. >>> Even when the majority says no and you push it through in the middle >>> of the night? >> >> Majority of what? Congress? The House? > > Constituents, the one's that called their representatives and demanded > they vote against it. The ones that argued at townhall meetings > causing many democrats to cancel them. The loyalty pledge wouldn't > work because they were loyal democrats complaining. Ah well. Since they couldn't get their act together, I guess we'll never know. There weren't any large scale riots about it, were there? That generally happens when a large portion of the populace strongly disagrees about something like this. ... >> I'm messing with you. I bet we can both agree that the Executive >> Branch probably needs some reeling in after the Bush fiasco. > > That will happen tomorrow. See Harry and Nancy do whatever he tells > them to. After tomorrow that will change and he'll try to bi-pass > them. That's when we start to worry. Keep me posted! >> I bet you're still claiming that the Daily Show never pokes fun at Obama >> either. > > I think I posted a clip of him mocking Obama. it was kind of shocking > but he's still in love. You see Obama lovers everywhere, don't you? Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. =) ... >> It's just a few, but my point is, y'all need to talk some sense into >> them. Tell 'em to sit down and shut up already. It's hurting your >> party, and when one party is that badly fucked up, it messes with the >> System. > > I got a better idea, I won't tell you to control your nuts and you > don't tell me to control mine. It's a big country and if you want to > judge groups by the extremists start with your own group. When mainstream Democratic candidates start saying the types of things mainstream Republicans are, you betcha! =)p Though you seem to ignore when anyone who generally supports "the left" criticizes "the left", so it's not exactly fair. You'll still toss me in the Love Box. =)p >> Are you saying that Bush (and Cheney) did not (unprecedentedly) expand >> the powers of the Executive Branch? > > No, they used existing war powers. Really? What about those signing exception deals? >> Look, I'm right there with you man. Obama ain't doing much to rectify >> the situation. > > But it's not his faulty because no human is capable of fixing Bush's mess? See? I can't win for losing. You really, *really* love Obama. :) >> Which, if you'll recall, is fucking *exactly* what I predicted. >> >> Thanks for speaking out with me Post it, yo! It's clear that we don't agree on the health care reform, but I'm right there with you on this stuff. Try me! 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