compared to what? the arabs surrounding them.

Simple natural experiment look at the relative performances of the US
army pre and post all volunteer doctrine. The all volunteer army in
Iraq, especially the taking down of the Iraqi Army, has completely
outperformed the draftee army of the Vietnam era.


On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 12:43 AM, Eric Roberts
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Not sure I agree with that.  The Israeli army is pretty damn good...
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 11:35 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Shooting at Empire State building.People under stress or
> something?
>
>
> Not sure whether that would work all that well. Up until recently the
> volunteer military was nearly the best in the world. Conscript armies are
> typically nowhere near that good. I think something like a National Service
> would work better. Something similar to the Civilan Conservation Corps
> during the 30's. But with a military option as well. If everyone is required
> to serve in the military, how soon before everything else become militarized
> and we are all servants of the military. Latin America of the 70's and 80's
> showed how well that sort of arrangement worked.
>
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Eric Roberts
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I actually think that mandatory military service would solve a lot of
>> issues.  We take too much for granted.
>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Judah McAuley [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:22 PM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: Shooting at Empire State building.People under stress or
>> something?
>>
>>
>> Btw, I wouldn't have nearly the problem if we had a rigorous and
>> continuous education system for firearms ownership and use. Something
>> akin to a marshal arts training academy where you not only learn how
>> to fight but when to fight, how to engage and (most importantly) how and
> when to walk away.
>>
>> It would also be different if we had a mandatory military service
>> period, ala Israel, that required rigorous training in firearms safety
>> and engagement. If we really want a commonly armed citizenry, we ought
>> to do away with the volunteer military and establish a mandatory
>> service period with appropriate training. I've gone back and forth of
>> the wisdom of such an approach. It's something I'm still mulling over
>> and can see the pros and cons of.
>>
>> Judah
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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