>
> In theory, I could say that I have the right to kill you because you
> diminish my quality of life. That's crazy, of course (and I don't really
> mean it!), but the issue is - why would I have have any right over your
> life just because I think you being around makes it harder. So, going
> back to a mother and child - show me a child that is NOT a burden in
> some ways. I know when Lynn is up at 3am she is lowering the quality of
> my sleep. However that doesn't mean I can kill her. I guess my main
> response is - the murder of the child is not a valid response to the
> impact the child could have. (Does that make sense - even if you
> disagree?)

In the case of the childs quality of life being so poor and miserable - a
single mother that doesn't want it, a society that doesn't want it, no
money, no father - I am unsure that the birth of an unwanted, poverty
stricken child is doing this child a big favor.  Lets make the mother have
the child and then send that child to jail later for the crimes it commits
because its mother isn't CAPABLE of doing an adequate job.


> I'm talking about a woman who decides to have an abortion not because
> her life is in danger, but because she just doesn't feel like having a
> child. I think you are being picky about my words here. (Although I did
> the same thing to the person who said the child wasn't "alive" when it
> was in the womb. ;)


I am being picky about your words because they trivialize the many women who
have an abortion not because its "convenient" but because it would ruin
their lives and the life of the child not to.  It trivializes the many women
who are responsibly using birth control and get pregnant anyway.  And
finally because the only people who abortion is "convenient" to is men -
they don't have to deal with the responsibility of the baby, the birth
control or the abortion.  They just have to screw someone.

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