> Thirdly - what about woemn who use BCP and get pregnant anyway? To me, > this is an accident. However, the use of abortion is not appropriate. > Again, using my earlier email - I may _want_ to seal something instead > of paying for it - but I can't.
So you're saying that once she's pregnant, that's it. No argument. Regardless of intent. The intent of taking BCP being not getting pregnant. Unless her life is in danger? My wife and I have two beautiful children, we love them both dearly and would not trade a single "bad" (read unpleasant or difficult) experience with either of them for anything in the world. But two is all we want. Ever. We have been using birth control "religiously" for the last several years for the express purpose of NOT having any more children. In fact, I recently had a vasectomy (my wife is considering getting tubes tied as well). Now, our intent is to NOT have any more children; so by your logic, if my wife were to become pregnant (suggesting the vasectomy didn't work correctly...it has happened) then we should be forced to deal with the consequences and carry the child to term? Or should we be relegated to just not having sex anymore because one of the *possible* outcomes, dispite our intents is pregnancy? will ---- William H. Bowen Webmaster ALSTOM's T&D Energy Automation & Information Business "Your friendly neighborhood Webmaster!" [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.esca.com/ 425.739.3629 Voice 425.466.7016 Cell 425.739.3690 FAX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 12:28 PM Subject: RE: Abortion (was CNN Breaking News) > > > > In the case of the childs quality of life being so poor and > > miserable - a > > single mother that doesn't want it, a society that doesn't want it, no > > money, no father - I am unsure that the birth of an unwanted, poverty > > stricken child is doing this child a big favor. Lets make > > the mother have > > the child and then send that child to jail later for the > > crimes it commits > > because its mother isn't CAPABLE of doing an adequate job. > > Unless you can tell the future you have absolutely NO idea if the child > will be miserable. Heck, even if the child is born poor, it does not > mean the child will stay poor. Just because the child is born into a > poor family does not mean the cild will be miserable, or turn to crime. > > > I am being picky about your words because they trivialize the > > many women who > > have an abortion not because its "convenient" but because it > > would ruin > > their lives and the life of the child not to. It trivializes > > the many women > > who are responsibly using birth control and get pregnant anyway. And > > finally because the only people who abortion is "convenient" > > to is men - > > they don't have to deal with the responsibility of the baby, the birth > > control or the abortion. They just have to screw someone. > > Let me split this up a bit because I feel you are bringing up a few > different topics here. > > First, I said convenient to mark the difference between a woman who has > to have an abortion because her life is in danger and one who chooses > to. I don't feel like I have to defend myself when it comes to women. If > you have a problem with my word, then please accept my apology. However, > now I think the distinction is made, so can we accept that there _is_ a > difference? > > Secondly - "ruin the life of the cild" - again - I ask you to look at my > first paragraph. You do not know if the child's life will be bad. Again, > just because a person is poor doesn't mean they are miserable. I know > people who barely make any amount of money. Sure they wan't more, but > are they miserable, no. Also, the last time I checked - everyone feels > miserable at some point in their life. Think about the last time you > felt really, really bad. You probably wanted to die. I know I've been > there. Am I glad I didn't off myself? heck yes! > > Thirdly - what about woemn who use BCP and get pregnant anyway? To me, > this is an accident. However, the use of abortion is not appropriate. > Again, using my earlier email - I may _want_ to seal something instead > of paying for it - but I can't. > > Lastly - your comment on men. You would not allow me to make such a > statement about women (all women are #insert#), so why make it about > men? It's unfortunate that so many men are assholes, but you cannot say > that about all men. Are you saying some women don't have abortions so > they won't have to deal with the responsibility? As it stands - a man's > role is more than just screwing someone. The woman may have the child > for 9 months, but both parents have the child for 18 years. > > -ray > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
