How do you know? There have been people whos parents are losers to have a worthwhile life.
I'm not debating abortion i'm debating your saying that the child wouldnt deserve a life because it will be shitty. Hell my lifes shitty sometimes but i guess i am glad my mom let me be born!!! :) Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 3:53 PM Subject: Re: Abortion (was CNN Breaking News) > > Unless you can tell the future you have absolutely NO idea if the child > > will be miserable. Heck, even if the child is born poor, it does not > > mean the child will stay poor. Just because the child is born into a > > poor family does not mean the cild will be miserable, or turn to crime. > > An unwanted child, born to a 15 year old crack addict is not likely to have > much opportunity. > > > > > First, I said convenient to mark the difference between a woman who has > > to have an abortion because her life is in danger and one who chooses > > to. I don't feel like I have to defend myself when it comes to women. If > > you have a problem with my word, then please accept my apology. However, > > now I think the distinction is made, so can we accept that there _is_ a > > difference? > > You are talking two very opposite sides of a very grey continuum. You say > its ok if the mother's life is in danger. But not if its someone who uses > abortions instead of birth control. This leaves out almost everyone who > actually has an abortion. So I am not comfortable only talking about those > two extremes. > > >. Think about the last time you > > felt really, really bad. You probably wanted to die. I know I've been > > there. Am I glad I didn't off myself? heck yes! > > I have never ever ever wanted to die. I am sorry people feel this way. > > I have not experienced life as an unwanted child, nor do I want to. I doubt > you have either. > > > > Thirdly - what about woemn who use BCP and get pregnant anyway? To me, > > this is an accident. However, the use of abortion is not appropriate. > > Again, using my earlier email - I may _want_ to seal something instead > > of paying for it - but I can't. > > > > Lastly - your comment on men. You would not allow me to make such a > > statement about women (all women are #insert#), so why make it about > > men? It's unfortunate that so many men are assholes, but you cannot say > > that about all men. Are you saying some women don't have abortions so > > they won't have to deal with the responsibility? As it stands - a man's > > role is more than just screwing someone. The woman may have the child > > for 9 months, but both parents have the child for 18 years. > > > > > Well you did make comments about women who have abortions - you said > abortions were a "convenience" to them. I assure you that to most women > having an abortion it is NOT a convenience, its a terrible, difficult > decision and many of the women at the clinic i volunteered at were > devastated at having to make this decision. They were oftentimes > responsible people who made a mistake or whom were unlucky. I assure you > that most of the women getting abortions (I volunteered at a clinic for > several years) did not have responsible men escorting them to get abortions. > > In EVERY SINGLE surprise pregnancy there is a man responsible too. A man > who most likely could have prevented that pregnancy by wearing a condom. > But I guess a condom is too inconvenient.... Quite frankly, responsibility > for birth control should fall equally on the man as the woman. > > Until men are capable of getting unexpectedly pregnant, or are all taking > responsibility for birth control, they shouldn't be able to dictate what > women get to do if they get pregnant. > > I of course know there are responsible men in the world. I live with one and > am friends with many others, several of whom have full custody of their > children. But to mark every woman who has an abortion without it being a > life threatening pregnancy as having an abortion of convenience strikes me > as quite sexist - why not blame the guys who knocked them up in the first > place? > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
