----- Original Message -----
From: "Leanne Bertani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] eyes

> My information comes from Cynthia Wheeler, > Leanne

OK, now I am confused!  My Dr. is also Cynthia Wheeler and saw three, eight
week old puppies just last weekend.  She as seen ALL my puppies between 7 -
9 weeks except for one litter.  With that litter,  I wasn't able to get my
puppies to the clinic until they were just over ten weeks.  During that exam
she said she had a hard time see what was going on with one of the puppies
and wanted to see him again at six months. ? ! ? ! ? ! ? ! ?

Susan

Susan K Platt
Claymoore Cavaliers
Grand Blanc, MI
810 695-8979
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www.usol.com/~claymoore
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leanne Bertani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] eyes


> My information comes from Cynthia Wheeler, breed review coordinator for
the
> book published by the Genetics Committee of the American College of
> Veterinary Ophthalmologists, "Ocular Disorders Presumed to be Inherited in
> Purebred Dogs".  I quote: "I find before 6 weeks (when the tapetum begins
to
> form) and
> after 10 weeks to be the best time to evaluate.  Between 6 and 10 weeks,
the
> tapetal coloring can make the rd lesions less visible."
>
> Also, from the CERF website:   http://www.vmdb.org/dx.html
> "Retinal dysplasia can be detected as early as 6-8 weeks on a CERF
> examination. However, because the size of the eye is small and young
puppies
> are often wiggling during examination, a 6 month recheck is recommended in
> order for the ophthalmologist to better see the back of the eye."
>
> I agree that the puppies need to be examined at least once before the
folds
> have a chance to heal, but I don't think that you can say for certain that
> dogs examined at 6-10 weeks of age are free of retinal dysplasia.
>
> Leanne
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Susan K Platt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Now the Opthamologist I go to said that she like to see the puppies
> BETWEEN
> > six and ten weeks.  She also said that many times if the puppies is seen
> > after that, the folds (if they had them), could unfold and be
> undetectable.
> > Therefore, if the puppy is not tested early, you really don't know if
you
> > have a dog that is "normal" or not.  So not only is the "bubble sheet"
> > important but the age in which the puppy was tested.
> >
> > Susan
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Leanne Bertani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] eyes
> > Folds are hard to see between six and 10 weeks of age, due to the
coloring
> > of the tapetum at that age; folds may easily be missed in young puppies.
> > For this reason, it is recommended that puppies be examined again at six
> > months of age.
>
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