Hi, Myra and Cathy,
ANY intervention I do at this time, the vet will want to be involved.
This is partially because she likes it (does equine repro on Wed.). She
will give dopram to me, but no other intervention........she says it is
because she saw a ruptured uterus not too long ago when someone was too
eager with the pit. SIGH
So, our girl is getting those dabs of ice cream and also half a slice
of American cheese twice daily. (She also is on regular vitamins). I'd
not be able to talk my vet into any injectables but dopram off of her
site.
This was news to me and a new policy. Whenever we have discussed these
possibilities in past this policy didn't come up and I was welcome in
delivery and pit was avialable if needed after cervical dilation, etc.
So, Cathy, I'm not distressed at this labor but at the possibility of
dealing with stuff I'd rather do at home having to be done at the vets.
Suze
Myra Savant wrote:
>
> If you have a calcium supplement, give her a small amount of that because
> that willl stimulate a contraction without the side effects of pitocin. The
> one I like to use is CALSORB. A couple of CCs and it will stimulate
> contractions.
>
> >From: "Susan A. Schlenger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [CKCS-L] Primary Uterine Inertia?
> >Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:29:55 -0400
> >
> >Hi, List,
> >Now I really need an opinion. Same bitch, second
> >litter. Her temp dropped at 1:00 pm and stayed down yesterday. (As I
> >write it is 99.1). She was panting and nesting all night (I was
> >sleeping next to the whelping box or a reasonable facsimile of the
> >occasional nap). Water hasn't broken to my knowledge.
> >
> >The last time she whelped her temp pattern was as
> >follows:
> >
> >10:00 am, 99.8 10:00 pm, 100.0
> >10:00 am, 99.2 2:00 pm, 99.6 10:00 pm 99.1 (began nesting and panting
> >after midnight)
> >10:00 am, 98.8 12:45 pum, 99.1 4:00 pu, 97.8 10:00 pum 98.1 (water
> >broke
> >shortly after and productive labor began).
> >
> >She produced her first puppy "true breech" (upside down, breech) and
> >large, stuck. Placenta though attached was "thready" body of the pup
> >was ridged on presentation. Delivered with contractions/traction
> >slowly. Couldn't revive the pup with swinging, dopram, etc. Four
> >healthy pups free whelped followed. No further problems. Literature
> >suggests that in temp pattern such as above a pup has detached from the
> >uterine wall and is ready to be born. (Which is why we hear they
> >shouldn't labor in primary stage more than twenty four hours from temp
> >drop).
> >
> >
> >The current litter temp pattern:
> >
> >10:00 am, 100.1 2:00 pm 99.6 6:00 pm 99.4 9:45 pm, 99.1 panting and
> >mildly uncomfortable, nesting furiously and pacing the rest of the
> >night.
> >
> >We are waiting for her water to break and to see productive labor. OK
> >guys, I know they don't read the books, but they all say inertia if
> >temps are down twenty four hours. By mid day today do I officially
> >declare inertia? She is going for a short walks up and down the
> >driveway.
> >She has had ice cream in small dabs throughout the night and doesn't yet
> >appear as exhausted as I feel. <G>)
> >
> >Today when I asked my vet her procedure for sections (if one
> >should be needed) she said I could resuscitate babies but they would be
> >whisked out to me and I couldn't be in surgery. She took over from her
> >brother.....another excellent vet also interested in repro and we had
> >had this discussion back then. (He told me that it was the exception but
> >that I would be allowed into a section). I've not needed a section
> >before. Since my discussions with both vets (her brother is gone into
> >specialization), it seems that things have changed.
> > No choices today but to procede and hope we have normal labor
> >shortly.
> >I'm also told that her procedure for pitocin is i.v. and that she
> >prefers then to have the birthing THERE if any pitocin is needed.
> ><moan>
> > So, what has all of your experiences been with anything like
> >this?
> >
> >Help me talk this girl into productive contractions, eh? I'm off to
> >walk her on the driveway with a towel in hand.
> >
> >
> >
> >Suze
> >--
> >Suze at Llawen Cavaliers
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> >to depend simply upon himself." -Isna Ia-wica
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