Susan the Calsorb is in a tube you give it orally. NOT injectable.

Maybe she feels you are to anxious that is why she won't give you oxytocin now.

Just wanted to let Erica V know that my Ringcreevy Renaldo daughter just gave
birth to three beautiful healthy tricolors. 8 oz girl 10 boy and 12 oz boy.

Good Luck Susan


Cathy

"Susan A. Schlenger" wrote:

> Hi, Myra and Cathy,
>         ANY intervention I do at this time, the vet will want to be involved.
> This is partially because she likes it (does equine repro on Wed.).  She
> will give dopram to me, but no other intervention........she says it is
> because she saw a ruptured uterus not too long ago when someone was too
> eager with the pit.  SIGH
>         So, our girl is getting those dabs of ice cream and also half a slice
> of American cheese twice daily.  (She also is on regular vitamins).  I'd
> not be able to talk my vet into any injectables but dopram off of her
> site.
>
> This was news to me and a new policy.  Whenever we have discussed these
> possibilities in past this policy didn't come up and I was welcome in
> delivery and pit was avialable if needed after cervical dilation, etc.
>
> So, Cathy, I'm not distressed at this labor but at the possibility of
> dealing with stuff I'd rather do at home having to be done at the vets.
>
> Suze
>
> Myra Savant wrote:
> >
> > If you have a calcium supplement, give her a small amount of that because
> > that willl stimulate a contraction without the side effects of pitocin.  The
> > one I like to use is CALSORB.  A couple of CCs and it will stimulate
> > contractions.
> >
> > >From: "Susan A. Schlenger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List
> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: [CKCS-L] Primary Uterine Inertia?
> > >Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 11:29:55 -0400
> > >
> > >Hi, List,
> > >Now I really need an opinion.  Same bitch, second
> > >litter.  Her temp dropped at 1:00 pm and stayed down yesterday.  (As I
> > >write it is 99.1).  She was panting and nesting all night (I was
> > >sleeping next to the whelping box or a reasonable facsimile of the
> > >occasional nap).  Water hasn't broken to my knowledge.
> > >
> > >The last time she whelped her temp pattern was as
> > >follows:
> > >
> > >10:00 am, 99.8  10:00 pm, 100.0
> > >10:00 am, 99.2  2:00 pm, 99.6   10:00 pm 99.1 (began nesting and panting
> > >after midnight)
> > >10:00 am, 98.8  12:45 pum, 99.1 4:00 pu, 97.8   10:00 pum 98.1 (water
> > >broke
> > >shortly after and productive labor began).
> > >
> > >She produced her first puppy "true breech" (upside down, breech) and
> > >large, stuck.  Placenta though attached was "thready" body of the pup
> > >was ridged on presentation.  Delivered with contractions/traction
> > >slowly.  Couldn't revive the pup with swinging, dopram, etc.  Four
> > >healthy pups free whelped followed.  No further problems.  Literature
> > >suggests that in temp pattern such as above a pup has detached from the
> > >uterine wall and is ready to be born.  (Which is why we hear they
> > >shouldn't labor in primary stage more than twenty four hours from temp
> > >drop).
> > >
> > >
> > >The current litter temp pattern:
> > >
> > >10:00 am, 100.1 2:00 pm 99.6    6:00 pm 99.4 9:45 pm, 99.1  panting and
> > >mildly uncomfortable, nesting furiously and pacing the rest of the
> > >night.
> > >
> > >We are waiting for her water to break and to see productive labor.  OK
> > >guys, I know they don't read the books, but they all say inertia if
> > >temps are down twenty four hours.  By mid day today do I officially
> > >declare inertia?  She is going for a short walks up and down the
> > >driveway.
> > >She has had ice cream in small dabs throughout the night and doesn't yet
> > >appear as exhausted as I feel. <G>)
> > >
> > >Today when I asked my vet her procedure for sections (if one
> > >should be needed) she said I could resuscitate babies but they would be
> > >whisked out to me and I couldn't be in surgery.  She took over from her
> > >brother.....another excellent vet also interested in repro and we had
> > >had this discussion back then. (He told me that it was the exception but
> > >that I would be allowed into a section).  I've not needed a section
> > >before. Since my discussions with both vets (her brother is gone into
> > >specialization), it seems that things have changed.
> > >         No choices today but to procede and hope we have normal labor
> > >shortly.
> > >I'm also told that her procedure for pitocin is i.v. and that she
> > >prefers then to have the birthing THERE if any pitocin is needed.
> > ><moan>
> > >         So, what has all of your experiences been with anything like
> > >this?
> > >
> > >Help me talk this girl into productive contractions, eh?   I'm off to
> > >walk her on the driveway with a towel in hand.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Suze
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