Re: mpaf 30 vs 60

[Nathan]

There are two issues here.   One, don't confuse the assessment of the resident with the completion of the assessment form. They are two different events marked by two different dates. The assessment of the resident stops as of the ARD. The completion of the assessment form occurs as of R2b. Yes, the ARD of the new assessment should be the same as the first one because the assessment of the resident stopped on that day. You are in effect using the same assessment to fill out the new form. But you did not finish filling out the 30 day form on the day you finished filling out the incorrect 60 day form. Therefore, you have a new R2b.   Second, once you inactivate the 60 day, it no longer exists as far as CMS is concerned. I understand that within the software you are simply changing AA8b on the original assessment, but that is for your convenience only. It is a brand new assessment that has no true association with any other assessment that may have existed before.   Nathan ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie Nichols To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 10:50 AM Subject: Re: mpaf 30 vs 60 Even if all the information in the assessment was the same and the only thing that would be different is the type of assessment?  I guess this confuses me because to me the assessment was completed on the original R2b and to me the assessment is the same.  Why couldn't you date on the attestation form the date you inactivated the assessment?  To me the assessment of the Resident did not change and they completed the assessment by the original R2b date.  Fortunately I have not had to do this and hope I don't have to but if I ever do I just want to understand it.  Debbie Nichols, RN, RAC-C ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 11:52 AM Subject: Re: mpaf 30 vs 60 After inactivating the record, the next step is to create and submit a new, original MDS record.  Since this is a new, original record, the R2b date would be the date the new assessment was completed - not the date the inactivated assessment was completed.  See the MDS correction policy at http://www.qtso.com/mdsdownload.html Rena Rena R. Shephard, MHA, RN, FACDONA, RAC-C Chair, American Association of Nurse Assessment Coordinators [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: mpaf 30 vs 60 Date: 3/5/04 7:05:05 AM Pacific Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent from the Internet Okay, I have inactivated the 60 day assessment that should have been a 30 day....I have redone the 30day and am getting ready to resubmit....what do I sign as R2b?????   Help, this is driving me crazy, I have never had to inactivate a record and I am freaking........I want to keep the same date on the R2b and from reading the Correction policy, I think this is correct. Any answers are appreciated.   ann m schoeny crnac sem haven nursing and rehab 225 cleveland ave. milford, ohio 45150 (513) 248-1270 Rena R. Shephard, MHA, RN, FACDONA, RAC-C Chair, American Association of Nurse Assessment Coordinators [EMAIL PROTECTED]