> Ireland you say
>
>  hmmm
>
> Guiness
> Steak & ale pie
> Irish lasses
>
> where do I sign up?

Huge rent and housing costs,
terrible traffic and commutes,
awful insurance costs,
bad weather,
crap broadband where you can get it,
expensive pints,
no more decent pubs,
even the Guinness isn't as good,

and they don't all look like the Corrs!!!

It will be a couple of years before those job opps are around.

I think its great that less people are applying for those courses, most of
people in them have no interest in computers, programming etc. They all end
up in jobs they hate.

All because they thought the would become dot.com millionaires.

Justin.

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>
> In Ireland, there have been serious drops in people entering tech.
> university courses.
> So bad that the colleges are actively promoting computer courses. A couple
> of years ago it impossible to get a place. Techie companies are worried
that
> there won't be enough skills in the future.
>
> Is it the same situation in the UK?
>
> Justin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duncan Fenton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 12 January 2004 13:40
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> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CF Salaries
>
>
> What about the flood of asp-ers who claim to know asp?
>
> <plug shameless=true> I actually do </plug>
>
> Duncan Fenton
> Solution Consultant
>
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> From: EWS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 12 January 2004 12:55
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> Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] CF Salaries
>
> <snip>
> perhaps it is the flood of ASPers and PHPers that claim to know CF that is
> bringing down the perceptions on recruiters (especially those who dont
> really understand what CF is and how it can be utilised). ASP and PHP
> programmers are after 10 a penny these days. They are being taught ASP at
> University and even in some High Schools and PHP modules are given away by
> the thousands so PHPers dont have to understand basic programming concepts
> (plug and play programming).
>
> What does everyone else think?
>
> Ellis C Wood BSC
> Ellwood Web Solutions
>
>
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