Hi Rich,

FWIW, I'm one of those people who said they were interested, and I
still voted to move it to the attic (even though my vote is non
binding as I'm not a committer).

Initially I also thought that we could try to revive it within the
ASF, but it quickly became clear that *none* of the current committers
is willing to go down that route, i.e. put in the effort needed to
onboard new committers. And without that, there's just no way forward.
Various people voiced other concerns as well, such as viability of the
project when other alternatives like Kubernetes exist, lack of clear
technical direction for the future, etc.
While they're relevant questions, I think currently they don't really
make sense since the current Mesos community is basically dead.
Finally, I think that the project should be moved to the Attic de
facto because AFAICT the Apache rules require at least 3 *active*
committers, and that's definitely not the case.

However I still do believe in the project for the reasons I outlined
in some of the previous threads, and I'm still interested in
contributing: I just think that the current structure of the project
is not suited for that anymore. And to be honest, I just want to move
on, I'm tired of those endless discussions - it's been almost 2 months
since the first thread stared, and nothing happened.

It's a shame that we won't be able to continue using
https://github.com/apache/mesos though, as it creates a much higher
barrier to continuing the project.

However if that's really not possible, then I guess that leaves no
other option: once the vote has passed, I guess I'll start a final
thread to gather people who'd be interested to create a new project
forked off master on github, so we can start from scratch with our own
repository, bug tracker etc. I hope those people who said they're
actually interested will be willing to take an active part.



Le mer. 7 avr. 2021 à 02:50, Rich Bowen <rbo...@apache.org> a écrit :
> I hope y'all can forgive me for sticking my nose in, as a concerned member. 
> Color me confused by this vote.
> A month ago, on this same list - 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r307db648e201182fcf39b0de63ba224b94965501e20e6cbcecc085e4%40%3Cdev.mesos.apache.org%3E
>  - Qian asked who was still interested in keeping the project going. SIX 
> people responded that, given the chance, they'd step up and keep it going.
> Around that same time - 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cdev.mesos.apache.org%3E
>  - Vinod observed that the too-high barrier to granting committer rights has 
> been a major factor in the slowdown of the project.
> And yet, y'all are voting to attic the project.
> So, again, it's not my project, and I don't have a vote here, but the reason 
> the Board asks projects to have these attic conversations on the Dev list is 
> *specifically* so that interested people can say, hey, don't attic it, we'll 
> take it from here. Which six people, plus Qian, have done.
> Maybe it's time to lower the barrier to entry, and let these willing people 
> take the project forward, do so. The Board can work out the picky little 
> details of re-forming the PMC, if that's a difficulty.

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