Thanks for taking the time to explain more to an outsider. Much appreciated. I remain unclear as to how the project could have enough people to remain active on Github, but not here. However, not seeing any dissenting voices from the stated-possible-new-committers, I accept your reasoning, and will resume my place in the peanut gallery. I wish you all well, and it was a pleasure having you here at Apache for the past 8 years.
--Rich On 2021/04/07 01:42:07, Charles-François Natali <cf.nat...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Rich, > > FWIW, I'm one of those people who said they were interested, and I > still voted to move it to the attic (even though my vote is non > binding as I'm not a committer). > > Initially I also thought that we could try to revive it within the > ASF, but it quickly became clear that *none* of the current committers > is willing to go down that route, i.e. put in the effort needed to > onboard new committers. And without that, there's just no way forward. > Various people voiced other concerns as well, such as viability of the > project when other alternatives like Kubernetes exist, lack of clear > technical direction for the future, etc. > While they're relevant questions, I think currently they don't really > make sense since the current Mesos community is basically dead. > Finally, I think that the project should be moved to the Attic de > facto because AFAICT the Apache rules require at least 3 *active* > committers, and that's definitely not the case. > > However I still do believe in the project for the reasons I outlined > in some of the previous threads, and I'm still interested in > contributing: I just think that the current structure of the project > is not suited for that anymore. And to be honest, I just want to move > on, I'm tired of those endless discussions - it's been almost 2 months > since the first thread stared, and nothing happened. > > It's a shame that we won't be able to continue using > https://github.com/apache/mesos though, as it creates a much higher > barrier to continuing the project. > > However if that's really not possible, then I guess that leaves no > other option: once the vote has passed, I guess I'll start a final > thread to gather people who'd be interested to create a new project > forked off master on github, so we can start from scratch with our own > repository, bug tracker etc. I hope those people who said they're > actually interested will be willing to take an active part. > > Cheers, > > Charles > > > > > > Le mer. 7 avr. 2021 à 02:50, Rich Bowen <rbo...@apache.org> a écrit : > > > > I hope y'all can forgive me for sticking my nose in, as a concerned member. > > Color me confused by this vote. > > > > A month ago, on this same list - > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r307db648e201182fcf39b0de63ba224b94965501e20e6cbcecc085e4%40%3Cdev.mesos.apache.org%3E > > - Qian asked who was still interested in keeping the project going. SIX > > people responded that, given the chance, they'd step up and keep it going. > > > > Around that same time - > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cdev.mesos.apache.org%3E > > - Vinod observed that the too-high barrier to granting committer rights > > has been a major factor in the slowdown of the project. > > > > And yet, y'all are voting to attic the project. > > > > So, again, it's not my project, and I don't have a vote here, but the > > reason the Board asks projects to have these attic conversations on the Dev > > list is *specifically* so that interested people can say, hey, don't attic > > it, we'll take it from here. Which six people, plus Qian, have done. > > > > Maybe it's time to lower the barrier to entry, and let these willing people > > take the project forward, do so. The Board can work out the picky little > > details of re-forming the PMC, if that's a difficulty. > > > > >
