I kind of expect to have Slack for more dev related discussions rather than user QA. I guess it is quite common to expect mailing list to be used for the purpose of knowledge sharing to make sure it will be accessible by other users as well. Of course, it is a trade-off that most of the other Apache projects decided to accept the risk of keeping user related discussions out of Slack/IRC. However, it sometimes happens to see the mixture of questions coming to Slack. I have heard recently people thought Metron is sort of dead just because the mailing list is not so active anymore!
Cheers, Ali On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 8:23 AM Casey Stella <ceste...@gmail.com> wrote: > Agreed, the benefit of the mailing list is that it’s searchable by ponymail > and the major search engines. > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 17:18 Nick Allen <n...@nickallen.org> wrote: > > > I don't know that it is the same kind of searchable. Is it being indexed > > by the major search engines? I have never used a search engine and > > uncovered the answer to my problem in a Slack archive. > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:05 PM Otto Fowler <ottobackwa...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > According to Greg Stein, an infra admin on the NiFi slack, the ASF > slack > > > that metron is in IS the standard plan, not the free one and is > > searchable > > > past 10,000 messages. > > > > > > > > > > > > On October 22, 2018 at 15:35:51, Michael Miklavcic ( > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > > ...From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think there's > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier to > > link > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches... > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/1aa85bc13d41e04a1f85c3100c2b803abe35d79b54062bbeaab83ace@%3Cdev.metron.apache.org%3E > > > > > > How very Inception. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:32 PM Michael Miklavcic < > > > michael.miklav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I just want to point out that we currently have 32 members in the > > Metron > > > > Slack channel which I personally think is a great sign. This is good > > from > > > a > > > > community perspective and helps foster interactive sessions where > > > required. > > > > From an archival and broader reach point of view, I do think there's > > > > something to be said about using the mailing list. It's also easier > to > > > link > > > > to Q/A threads from the mailing list archives and do searches. As > > such, I > > > > would also go along with Nick's suggestion and urge members to prefer > > the > > > > user/dev list where possible. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:51 AM Justin Leet <justinjl...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> If we want to push more discussion to the dev list, my obvious > follow > > up > > > >> question then is "What are we hoping to get out of Slack/irc/other > > > >> interactive medium?". What discussion would we even want on there, > if > > we > > > >> can't have decisions and don't want usage/support? > > > >> > > > >> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:44 PM Casey Stella <ceste...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > I am of 2 minds, but I tend to agree. On the one hand, it's > > definitely > > > >> the > > > >> > preference that we use the mailing lists for the reasons you > stated > > > (and > > > >> > also because not everyone has access to slack generally). On the > > other > > > >> > hand, I think an interactive medium like Slack has a lot of > > advantages > > > >> in > > > >> > terms of user satisfaction. Ultimately, though, we may satisfy 1 > > user > > > >> at > > > >> > the cost of not persisting the discussion and satisfying many > users. > > > >> > > > > >> > I'll go along with a specific preference to drive more discussion > to > > > the > > > >> > mailing list. > > > >> > > > > >> > Casey > > > >> > > > > >> > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:18 PM Nick Allen <n...@nickallen.org> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > It seems that we are seeing a lot of Metron usage and support > > > >> questions > > > >> > on > > > >> > > the Slack Channel. > > > >> > > These are questions that previously would have been directed to > > the > > > >> User > > > >> > or > > > >> > > Dev mailing lists. Since this is occurring in the Slack Channel, > > the > > > >> > > conversations are not archived. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > In my opinion, this is not good for the Metron community. Having > > > this > > > >> > > persisted in a discoverable form (like a mailing list archive) > not > > > >> only > > > >> > > helps support current users, but also helps *potential* users > > > >> understand > > > >> > > how Metron is being used. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Does anyone else agree or disagree? At a minimum, I feel we need > > to > > > >> do > > > >> > > something to direct these conversations back to the mailing > list. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- A.Nazemian
