I don't think there's a need to point to Wikipedias about what a software
release cycle is, do you? :-) The problem we're trying to solve is how to
name voting candidates for the Apache process whereby the initial
candidates for release tend to, especially in a large project like
NetBeans, get rejected and then new voting candidates need to be created
with clearly distinguished names.

Thanks,

Gj


On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:40 PM William L. Thomson Jr. <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 20:31:53 +0200
> Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > No one imposed anything. No, contacting mentors and discussing with
> > individual people off-thread is not how Apache projects work.
> >
> > We have a long history in NetBeans outside Apache where we used the
> > term 'release candidate' to mean something very different to how it
> > is used in Apache, i.e., an overloading of terms. This was a way to
> > resolve it suggested by our mentors.
>
> That makes a bit more sense then. You did say in a previous post that
> it came from mentors. I did not understand it was advised by mentors as
> means to continue how Netbeans releases were handled before the move to
> Apache. Or some compromise.
>
> > And, you're not subscribed to this mailing lisy, I keep needing to
> > moderate you, I don't know why. But when you're not seeing your
> > e-mails here, it means I'm not on-line to moderate them.
>
> I was using wrong email. I have an email address specific for posting
> to lists I was not using. Thus receiving but sending under the wrong
> one. Very sorry!!! Thanks for forwarding on those posts!
>
> > I apologize for no one responding to those previous e-mails -- I
> > skipped over them because I think the right approach here in an
> > Apache project is to start a new thread with [PROPOSAL] or [DISCUSS]
> > or something like that, i.e., what you're asking for is actually a
> > new tagging strategy, rather than for a tag to be created with no
> > suffix for a specific release.
>
> I have asked for both, either a change to the current strategy. Or a
> simple duplicate tag. Which I felt was a compromise to satisfy all.
>
> > I also don't understand the entire context -- and having everything
> > hidden in e-mails doesn't help either. For example, Laszlo created
> > this, if you were to create something similar we'd all have a better
> > idea what we're talking about:
>
>  I can see about creating a wiki page to cover the tagging of Netbeans.
>  Not sure if that will help or not. I just assumed tagging software and
>  the various suffixes were well known. I am just asking for things to
>  be standardize.
>
> This pretty much covers it all
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle
>
> The diagram enough should be suffice
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#/media/File:Software_dev2.svg
>
> --
> William L. Thomson Jr.
>

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