Hi *,
[http://www.murb.nl/extern/openoffice.org/websiteproposal/2.0/]
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 05:36:53PM -0500, Daniel Carrera wrote:
> Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>
> > Why do you think that the top priority should be the download?
> [..]
> 3. The primary objective of *any* product page is let the user grab it.
Do you relly thing that this cannot be accomplished with a box that
reads "Download"?
> It's no good to convince a user that a product is worth trying if the
> product is hidden in any way.
But it isn't hidden at all!
> This is a general principle. Download goes
> first, and encouraging the user to click on it is second.
Nah, the big "goal" should be to attract contributors (but before you
respond: I know this is not possible with a front-page)
> 4. When people come to the OOo site, they almost invariably already know
> something about the product. Simply because we don't have a marketing
> buget to have banner ads spread randomly accross the page.
The now "something". Right. But this "something" is very unclear. They
don't always know that this is an Office Suite.
> 5. In a similar way, download goes above lists and forums.
People are used to downloading and finding a download link. They simply
look for "Download" somewhere on the page.
If that "Download" link is not hidden in some graffity people will find
it. That's my point.
I don't think that downloading is the #1 priority. It merely is one
thing that must be present on the front page (but this is a huge
difference).
> > > 2) There is no way to access top-priority items like web forums, mailing
> > > lists and documentation.
> >
> > this could be an additional section next to Upcoming events, News,
> > Media.
>
> Are you looking at the same page I am? In the page I'm looking at those
> are hidden below the screen.
Would you mind uploading a screenshot of what you see?
> [...]
> > > 3) The explanatory paragraph is long. People don't tend to read much when
> > > they visit a page.
> >
> > I disagree. This kind is exactly what the current page lacks.("What the
> > heck is OOo")
>
> The current page lacks OOo information, but we shouldn'g to go the
> opposite extreme either. See Matthew's page. The about-ooo links are more
> prominent and clickable, and it would easily accomodate a 1-2 sentence
> description.
Just tried it. It took me quite long to identify this link in the mass
of other links.
> > > 7) There is no way for people to contact anyone. Not the community, not
> > > the developers. They can't report a bug.
> >
> > "Contact us" link in the center, above the footer.
>
> I was referring to mailing lists and forums.
>
> > Report a bug could be placed in the additional "Get Help" section.
>
> Reporting a bug is not getting help.
So what? Where's the problem if it doesn't fit the heading 100%?
> > No, I strongly disagree. The number one priority should be easy
> > navigation, not to have everything on the front page.
>
> I did not propose having everything in one page. And easy navigation is
> very important. And none of the things I said are counter to that.
I get the impression that you want links to almost everything on the
front page. (ressources, documentatin, support, contribution, media kit,
news, mailing lists, .....)
The left navbar in Matthews design already contains 13 Links to choose
from.
IMHO this already is too much. This is fine for the developer pages,
but too much for the front page.
> > Easy to navigate means as well don't have multiple links for the same
> > thing.
>
> Duplication should be avoided, yes.
>
> > Don't make the user decide whether he should hit "Help", "Support",
> > "some other link" and don't affront the user with lots of different
> > topics at once.
>
> Sadly, the stupid tabs are the top are stuck and they ain't gonna change.
You can use css to hide them.
> This is a limitation of SourceCast. If we could play with the tabs more
> easily I would be making somewhat different suggestions.
Feel free to do so.
ciao
Christian
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