Hi Christian,

>Hi Louis,
>
>On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 11:15:33AM -0800, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
>> >Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>> [snip]
>> >> I as well thing that developers will know how to find their pages,
>> >> so better call it "Contributing" (we have a nice contibuting page)
>> >
>> >If the "development" tab is replaced by a "contributing" tab that
goes
>> >to the contributing page I'll be happy. Somehow I'm not holdin gmy
>> >breath.
>> 
>> The Development pages are not at all the same as the "Contributing"
>> pages. 
>
>That's right, but this is exaclty the reason why having it on the
>front-page is not desireable. I thought the general agreement is
>"target the front page for end-users/newbies".

That's a major target, to be sure, but not  the only one. We also want
newbie developers :-)

>
>> Let's say we add to Development landing page two buttons:
>> 
>> * Contributing Code * Contributing Other Works
>> 
>> With the bottom one sending people to "Contributing" pages.
>> 
>> The top tab could then read, "Contributing."
>> 
>> But that makes it one step more difficult for those who are not
>> already developers of OOo to find out how to become such.  That is
>> why I prefer to have a tab that says, "Developer."  To make it seem
>> as if we are interested in *new* developers.  
>
>Developer sounds like "pages restricted to developers" (what it
>currently is).

Restricted? Not rather where those who think of themselves as developers
go?  You mean: "Restricted to existing developers"? But I am not
persuaded of that. We deployed that term and page following the pattern
of Mozilla.  That does not mean much, as they do not have a
"contributing" link.

>
>So the opposite makes more sense: Have the tab read "Contributing" and
>link http://www.openoffice.org/contributing.html
>
>This page already has the "programming" as well as "other ways".

I know...  My primary interest, is, like yours, to reduce confusing
redundancy.  Thus:

* i am perfectly willing (obviously) to see about changing Development
link to "Contributing"--following the logic I sketched above.  I'm
concerned that having only the "Contributing.html" page pointed to would
cause developers to be rightly annoyed that they must go: homepage ->
contribtuting.html --> contributing/programming.html -->
development.html before they find out about all the developer stuff.

As a solution, we could replace the link to "programming.html" with the
development category (http://development.ooo) which might work better.  

This would mean:

index.html -> contributing.html -> development/index.html
>
>The current developer-page is more suitable for a "ressources" section.

That really depends, don't you think, on what is meant by "resources"?  


>ciao
>Christian

Best
Louis

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