On Friday, 8 December 2017 at 22:22:14 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
(Abscissa) wrote:
On 12/08/2017 05:53 AM, Chris wrote:
[...]
Speaking as a US citizen, it's long been my observation that
americans (and I only mean collectively, of course, it's
difficult to generalize down to individuals since that varies
greatly) tend to be far more conservative than one would assume
them to be.
Just as one example: The various genres of electronic music.
Always succeeded far better in europe than they ever did the
US. Americans would hear it and just bitch about "soulless",
"doesn't require musical talent" and other such [nonsence]. But
turn on (for example) BBC's Top Gear and they had recognizable
Prodigy, Crystal Method, etc all over the place. And heck, most
of Fluke's catalog isn't even available in the US. That sort of
stuff just doesn't sell very well over here. Americans like
their "three main acoustic cords" and steady simple 4/4 beats.
Even "silicon vally" isn't quite so much "open to new
technology" as it is driven primarily by buzz and popularity.
And then there's the last presidential election, which, and I
don't mean this to be snarky, just honest observation: it
clearly demonstrated there's far more white
tra...*cough*...umm..."ultra-conservatives" here than anyone
ever thought.
From what I hear, we're one of the few remaining industrialized
nations that has capital punishment. Whether that's good/bad is
completely beside the point here, the point being: Either way,
it's undeniably conservative.
Despite perhaps tipping my hand a bit, I really don't mean any
of that as ranting at all, just illustrating that it DOES make
sense that europe would be more open to D than the US:
Because the US *is* paradoxically much more conservative than
one would expect from a relatively young country that produces
as much software and electronics as it does. Whether that
conservativeness is good/bad/other is open to opinion, but
either way, it is what it is, and I think D's higher rate of
success elsewhere can be traced to that.
Isn't that just culture (music) how popular is American Country
music in Europe? I have met one person that liked it. Trump is
hardly an ultra-conservative (not to mention the various groups
of conservatism social, fiscal, neo, etc..). Alot of the whites
u mentioned voted for Obama last time around and are just scared
of globalism and knew the alternative would push further down
that path. Not all D users look at forums and while I do agree
their are far more users visible in Europe that doesn't mean it's
not used here as well.
