Can we get any more off topic?
Thursday, Thursday, August 16, 2001, 2:45:20 PM, Michael L. Dean wrote:
> Yes, let's do the math! In fact, within your limited analysis you are quite
> correct! But, there is another outlook! For instance, I was (I
> believe)defrauded out of a few hundred by Scott Byers, nad I only pursued my
> position. But from the information I received from the Royal Canadian
> Mounted Police, he went on to get hundreds of unsuspecting buyers to buy
> fake playstation2 units -- total scam over 3 million! And he was an Opensrs
> reseller in good standing! In fact, tucows refused to intervene, he is
> still a Tucows RSP from jail! Who then must accept responsibility for the
> msddeeds of others? If you only seek redress for yourself, the analysis you
> allude to, or write it off, then when thousands of others are defrauded, it
> isn't your fault? There is a moral order above which your econmic analyses
> must acknoweldge. You are a citizen of some country, your loyalties are not
> to an economic analsys, but to your country. How can you morally stand by
> and let criminals proceed. Even if the criminal is NSI!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Donley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Catherine and Nigel Jewell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Michael L. Dean"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Transfer Bodge
>> Actually from a money and business standpoint I don't see the logic.
>> Most people in business put a dollar figure to their time. Lets say even
>> $30.00/hour (a very very cheap rate in this business) Now I spend 2
>> hours doing some prep time for this, 3 hours talking with a Lawyer about
>> how I should go about handling this, and yes when you go to small claims
>> you should still consult a lawyer before hand to be sure that you have a
>> strong case. The next thing could be anywhere from 1 to 6 hours waiting
>> for you case to be heard, and another hour or so presenting it. Lets do
>> the math
>>
>> 2 hours prep, + 3 hours Lawyer, plus lets say 2 hour wait for court + 1
>> hour court time = 8 hours spent x $30.00 = $240.00 lost because you took
>> NSI to court over a $35.00 refund. And this does not include lawyer
>> fees, and court fees.
>>
>> The easiest way to handle this, as others have said, is to simply do a
>> charge back on your credit card. No mess, no fuss, and no having to deal
>> with NSI!
>>
>>
>> "Michael L. Dean" wrote:
>> >
>> > going to court is not about money, it is about justice. If you feel
>> > strongly about an issue, you must exercise your rights. You display
> your
>> > ignorance by claiming I am a shill for lawyers, since small claims court
>> > does not allow lawyers! And the issue is not about $35. but about
> ownership
>> > of a domain which could well be worth millions.
>> >
>> > In addition, you resorted to a classical big bully offense -- by
> accusing me
>> > of something which emotes negative connotations, to your dis-credit.
> Maybe
>> > its time for you adolescents to face up to your virutal world
> limitations --
>> > because you are not an adult, you have got to get your mommy or daddy to
> sue
>> > for you. Any adult would see my logic.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Leland V. Lammert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "Michael L. Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Michael L. Dean"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> > "Catherine and Nigel Jewell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:39 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Transfer Bodge
>> >
>> > > At 11:45 AM 8/16/01 -0700, Michael L. Dean wrote:
>> > > > > There is a very simple answer for your plight -- you must take
> them to
>> > > > small
>> > > > > claims court, where you can win. Why should you do differently
> for
>> > NSI
>> > > > than
>> > > > > yhou would for your housekeeper? ADVICE: SUE THE BASTARDS.
>> > >
>> > > Michael,
>> > >
>> > > Are you truly advising someone to sue over $35?? Are you seriously
> saying
>> > > YOU would? What world are you living in? (You must be a shill for a
>> > lawyer!!)
>> > >
>> > > > > > I am looking for some advice - please help!
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > About a month ago I renewed a domain registered with Network
>> > > > Solutions for a
>> > > > > > year (at a cost of $35), so that I could transfer it (it was
> close
>> > to
>> > > > > > expiry).
>> > >
>> > > That's your cost of doing a double transfer - you should have waited
> until
>> > > more of the year was up. If NSI did not get the 'extra' year posted
> before
>> > > you transferred the domain, there's nothing you can do about it now.
>> > >
>> > > Lee
>> > >
>> > > ============================================
>> > > Leland V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > Chief Scientist Omnitec Corporation
>> > > Network/Internet Consultants www.omnitec.net
>> > > ============================================
>> > >
>> > >
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