On Feb 13, 2008 5:49 AM, W Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Manifestos are beautiful - and I can't argue with these - but it's the
> practice and process of any methodology carried out by real people that is
> all that matters.

Well, that's kind of the thing. There are real interaction designers
out there inserting their culture into agile practices and making them
design centric, not engineering centric. Just because it hasn't worked
for some of us in the past doesn't mean that a blanket statement
saying any approach/value system or methodology is always bad no
matter what. There is no doubt that agile was created largely by
engineers, for engineers. The customer touchpoints within agile are
often based on weak research practices, which (and this is strictly my
opinion) encourage and maybe cause some of the change agile wants to
embrace.

I disagree with others on this list who think agile sucks just because
a bunch of designers didn't create it. It doesn't mean that as
designers, we can't be innovative, creative and insert *our* values &
culture into an existing one, to make things better for everyone
involved.

What's supremely ironic about this whole debate is that as interaction
designers, we're concerned with, well, human interactions. Yet many of
us can't seem to figure out how to interact with engineers to get the
stuff we designed implemented correctly.

Jeff
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