Adam's challenge:

Jef Raskin - MacOS/rchi
Aza Raskin - Enso, Ubiquity

I know, they they will have to deny it for Apple policy reasons that
there are Apple members of the iPhoneOS on this list.

R/GA - Nike ID

Cooper - Visual Basic

Evans - Kayak

Andre H. - CS Suite Adobe

But even b4 I started this list. What about all the great IxD going
on at levels we don't consider. Enterprise work that I've done
recently at Motorola EMb. You would never care about.

Then I thought, OMG what a waste, b/c even all the stuff I wrote up
there could all be squashed as "software", well except for Nike ID
and deemed not good IxD (for some reason or another) by you.

The truth is quite honestly there has never been an Frank Lloyd
Wright of IxD. We haven't had our Gearhy. We haven't even had our
Dietr Rams. The reason is that the points of critique are constantly
in flux. Even by other discipline's standards.

But whether they are in the community or outside the community is
well meaningless compared to what value the community holds for
meaning for each other.

Adam,

You made 2 points in your piece that I got:
1. that everyone should be reaching outside of their direct medium
for knowledge. Who in their right mind would ever argue that? Of
course, you posited this against an "observation" which I would
call incomplete data at best that most in this community don't do.
Or that the community itself doesn't do. That is rubbish to the nth
degree.

2. that IxD has existed for time and memorial and looking for a point
Zero at the advent of the GUI is a mistake. While, I agree that the
advent of technology required the focus on that technology's effect
on how we think about design is core to IxD, I don't think there is
a point zero ever discussed by anyone in any literature I've read in
the IxD community. We venerate Engelbart, Verplank, Moggridge, etc.
But we also see them in wider contexts. 

I can't imagine any IxD worth their salt not knowing the
multi-disciplinary and contextual history of their discipline.

And, excuse me. "it's just a blog". AND this is just a bunch of
people also talking in a public forum. And I think we all know that
you are not "just a blog writer" and I doubt you would ever want to
be considered as such. You've earned enough respect through your
thought leadership that you cannot hide under such anonymity of
"just a blog".

-- dave


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