In my opinion a lot of Jr people don't apply because they feel intimidated by the advert. I have sent job openings to people and was told, "i don't think i qualify", to which my answer is usually, "try and see". If you happen to be at the top, of the bottom of the barrel, then they may select you. The disconnect, I think, is that ads ask for the whole pie, where they would accept a quarter, but they're not worded or explained that way.
bb On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng. <[email protected]> wrote: > Yeah....I would say "we're seeing the same thing", too. > > I've copied the posting to lopsa-jobs each time, and my social network sites > to try to expand its reach.... > > Last few times....barely get 3 applicants, where only 1 is remotely > qualified. And, then if we make an offer....they tell us that they need us > to get them a visa to work for us (one had a J-1 visa, another had been > staying past his h1-b [but had already sent his family home], the more > recent one wasn't living in the country anymore) But, our position is not > H1B eligible (since we don't require a Bachelors degree.) > > The most recent time we put out the ad....we wanted the applicants to tell > us how much they wanted for the position. But, the ones that wanted lots of > money didn't bother applying.....which I guess is good, because we probably > don't want them anyways. But, its hard to get a market adjustment if the > market won't tell us what to adjust to. > > The person that gets the applications, did show apparently show something to > my manager that said people like me average 25% more than what he > makes..... He's been trying to get us all market adjustments for a > while....CIO had said if we hire somebody (qualified) at market, he would > get market adjustments for the rest of us...hence the last search.... But, > finding somebody remotely qualified seems to be a stretch.... > > If only I didn't hate moving all my home computers/electronics..... > > ________________________________ > > The only input to this I can add is, “we’re seeing the same thing”. We > recently posted a (windows-based) sysadmin position, and the slate of > candidates that applied was well, really sub-par. It kind of stumps me – > given the state of the economy, I would have assumed that we’d have a stack > of resume’s two inches thick. Not the case. We eneded up only having two > applicants that were even qualified at all. I’m not sure what I can > conclude from this, other than that perhaps in the mid-to-high-end IT > market, most people really ARE still employed, and are hunkered down trying > to preserve their existing jobs? > > > > -kcb > > > > Group, > > > Good morning everybody. I currently have a position for a Jr. Systems > Administrator available in the Northern Virginia area (I've already sent out > an email to the group about it last week) and have been having difficulty > locating qualified and motivated candidates. > > The position will pay 50-65k depending on experience and is fairly entry > level so I don't feel the wages are a hindrance to finding candidates. > However, I've only managed to receive a limited number of resumes so far, > almost entirely from people who would not be a good fit the position. > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators > http://lopsa.org/ > _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators http://lopsa.org/
