We can afford it. Am I correct in assuming $800-$850/mo is skullspace's and assentworks's combined charge? Have you and Mike considered offering to pay a percentage of the bill rather than a fixed rate?
If my assumptions are correct, we're now offering to pay 60% of our usage. If we go through with our 1/3 reduction plans, we will be paying 90% of the bill. This seems high. On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Andrew Orr <[email protected]> wrote: > How many members do we even have? I know there's been a few people who > have left recently. Can we even afford this with our current membership and > the budget we worked out? > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I personally have no problem with you making the offer, provided Jay >> says it's a reasonable commitment financially. >> >> Ron >> >> On 2012-08-24 14:24, Justin Lacko wrote: >> > This is an important follow-up to earlier discussions involving the >> > cost of electrical on our floor. >> > >> > As you may know, Mike Legary and myself are meeting with Marvin, our >> > landlord on Tuesday afternoon to discuss the electrical bills. Today I >> > received the most recent electrical bill (we are billed monthly) which >> > came in at around $1100. This bill includes cre8ery's usage, plus >> > public building usage (garage lights, etc). Today Mike Legary also had >> > an electrician come and accurately measure our power usage on the >> > floor. The results are that with AW running its lights always and >> > regular use of their equipment, they are consuming roughly the same >> > amount of electricity as SkullSpace is, which is 36A per group (36A >> > SkSp, 36A AW). Our rough estimated electrical bills has been >> > calculated at $800-$850/mo. at peak use. >> > >> > What all of this means in the simplest terms is that the landlord is >> > losing money on our lease, which is not good. This would very easily >> > be a good reason to terminate our lease. Mike Legary estimated the >> > landlord currently making $0.50/sq. ft. on the space, and with taxes >> > at $0.70/sq. ft., which results in negative profit. In the upcoming >> > meeting, the landlord will almost certainly be asking for a reduction >> > of our usage. >> > >> > The suggestion that we will be making on Tuesday's meeting is that >> > SkSp & AW will pay for a certain portion of the electrical in order to >> > alleviate the problem of the landlord losing money. Don't forget that >> > our lease has a 6-month clause which means that the landlord could >> > terminate on us at any time. Our max offered contribution towards the >> > electrical bill will be $250/mo. per group, meaning a $500 >> > contribution from the floor. Again, we are doing this so that we >> > appear as the "good guys" who are recognising that the landlord is not >> > making money on us, and primarily we are doing this so that we don't >> > lose our lease. AssentWorks has already agreed to this amount, and we >> > need SkullSpace to be on board by Monday so that we can take this >> > offer to the meeting on Tuesday. If SkullSpace does not agree to this >> > and AssentWorks does, not only will it look bad on our part when >> > talking to the landlord, but it will almost certainly result in the >> > loss of our lease. The other added part to this agreement is for both >> > sides to reduce electrical consumption by 1/3 (the amount we will >> > bring to the table). This isn't as hard as it sounds; we have old >> > lighting taking up double the power of new lights; and lighting could >> > be put on motion sensors as AssentWorks will be doing. We could also >> > properly ventilate our server room which will result in reduced >> > workload on the machines and save us money. >> > >> > Unfortunately this issue is not one that can wait for a formal meeting >> > vote by members; Mike Legary and I need to go into this as being on >> > the same page in order to present a concerted response. Part of our >> > discussions will also focus on increased electrical due to the >> > landlord's decision to install space heaters, bad windows, etc. etc. >> > Mike and I will work hard for SkSp and AW to bargain as best as we can >> > in this process and also ensure that our upcoming electrical plans do >> > not render these discussions moot. >> > >> > I will try my best to answer all questions pertaining to this as best >> as I can. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Justin >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >
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