Sounds good. $250, or 60% of the bill, is a sane maximum in my opinion. If 60% of our bill ever turns out to be more than $250, we're doing something wrong.
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Justin Lacko <[email protected]> wrote: > We will be arguing for a percentage. $250 extra is the max we will go > if it comes to it. > > This is an excellent observation and will work well in the > discussions. Yes, 800-850 is combined. > > On 24 August 2012 15:34, Jay Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > > We can afford it. > > > > Am I correct in assuming $800-$850/mo is skullspace's and assentworks's > > combined charge? > > Have you and Mike considered offering to pay a percentage of the bill > rather > > than a fixed rate? > > > > If my assumptions are correct, we're now offering to pay 60% of our > usage. > > If we go through with our 1/3 reduction plans, we will be paying 90% of > the > > bill. This seems high. > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Andrew Orr <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> How many members do we even have? I know there's been a few people who > >> have left recently. Can we even afford this with our current membership > and > >> the budget we worked out? > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> I personally have no problem with you making the offer, provided Jay > >>> says it's a reasonable commitment financially. > >>> > >>> Ron > >>> > >>> On 2012-08-24 14:24, Justin Lacko wrote: > >>> > This is an important follow-up to earlier discussions involving the > >>> > cost of electrical on our floor. > >>> > > >>> > As you may know, Mike Legary and myself are meeting with Marvin, our > >>> > landlord on Tuesday afternoon to discuss the electrical bills. Today > I > >>> > received the most recent electrical bill (we are billed monthly) > which > >>> > came in at around $1100. This bill includes cre8ery's usage, plus > >>> > public building usage (garage lights, etc). Today Mike Legary also > had > >>> > an electrician come and accurately measure our power usage on the > >>> > floor. The results are that with AW running its lights always and > >>> > regular use of their equipment, they are consuming roughly the same > >>> > amount of electricity as SkullSpace is, which is 36A per group (36A > >>> > SkSp, 36A AW). Our rough estimated electrical bills has been > >>> > calculated at $800-$850/mo. at peak use. > >>> > > >>> > What all of this means in the simplest terms is that the landlord is > >>> > losing money on our lease, which is not good. This would very easily > >>> > be a good reason to terminate our lease. Mike Legary estimated the > >>> > landlord currently making $0.50/sq. ft. on the space, and with taxes > >>> > at $0.70/sq. ft., which results in negative profit. In the upcoming > >>> > meeting, the landlord will almost certainly be asking for a reduction > >>> > of our usage. > >>> > > >>> > The suggestion that we will be making on Tuesday's meeting is that > >>> > SkSp & AW will pay for a certain portion of the electrical in order > to > >>> > alleviate the problem of the landlord losing money. Don't forget that > >>> > our lease has a 6-month clause which means that the landlord could > >>> > terminate on us at any time. Our max offered contribution towards the > >>> > electrical bill will be $250/mo. per group, meaning a $500 > >>> > contribution from the floor. Again, we are doing this so that we > >>> > appear as the "good guys" who are recognising that the landlord is > not > >>> > making money on us, and primarily we are doing this so that we don't > >>> > lose our lease. AssentWorks has already agreed to this amount, and we > >>> > need SkullSpace to be on board by Monday so that we can take this > >>> > offer to the meeting on Tuesday. If SkullSpace does not agree to this > >>> > and AssentWorks does, not only will it look bad on our part when > >>> > talking to the landlord, but it will almost certainly result in the > >>> > loss of our lease. The other added part to this agreement is for both > >>> > sides to reduce electrical consumption by 1/3 (the amount we will > >>> > bring to the table). This isn't as hard as it sounds; we have old > >>> > lighting taking up double the power of new lights; and lighting could > >>> > be put on motion sensors as AssentWorks will be doing. We could also > >>> > properly ventilate our server room which will result in reduced > >>> > workload on the machines and save us money. > >>> > > >>> > Unfortunately this issue is not one that can wait for a formal > meeting > >>> > vote by members; Mike Legary and I need to go into this as being on > >>> > the same page in order to present a concerted response. Part of our > >>> > discussions will also focus on increased electrical due to the > >>> > landlord's decision to install space heaters, bad windows, etc. etc. > >>> > Mike and I will work hard for SkSp and AW to bargain as best as we > can > >>> > in this process and also ensure that our upcoming electrical plans do > >>> > not render these discussions moot. > >>> > > >>> > I will try my best to answer all questions pertaining to this as best > >>> > as I can. > >>> > > >>> > Thanks, > >>> > Justin > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >>> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >>> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >
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