We will be arguing for a percentage. $250 extra is the max we will go if it comes to it.
This is an excellent observation and will work well in the discussions. Yes, 800-850 is combined. On 24 August 2012 15:34, Jay Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > We can afford it. > > Am I correct in assuming $800-$850/mo is skullspace's and assentworks's > combined charge? > Have you and Mike considered offering to pay a percentage of the bill rather > than a fixed rate? > > If my assumptions are correct, we're now offering to pay 60% of our usage. > If we go through with our 1/3 reduction plans, we will be paying 90% of the > bill. This seems high. > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Andrew Orr <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> How many members do we even have? I know there's been a few people who >> have left recently. Can we even afford this with our current membership and >> the budget we worked out? >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I personally have no problem with you making the offer, provided Jay >>> says it's a reasonable commitment financially. >>> >>> Ron >>> >>> On 2012-08-24 14:24, Justin Lacko wrote: >>> > This is an important follow-up to earlier discussions involving the >>> > cost of electrical on our floor. >>> > >>> > As you may know, Mike Legary and myself are meeting with Marvin, our >>> > landlord on Tuesday afternoon to discuss the electrical bills. Today I >>> > received the most recent electrical bill (we are billed monthly) which >>> > came in at around $1100. This bill includes cre8ery's usage, plus >>> > public building usage (garage lights, etc). Today Mike Legary also had >>> > an electrician come and accurately measure our power usage on the >>> > floor. The results are that with AW running its lights always and >>> > regular use of their equipment, they are consuming roughly the same >>> > amount of electricity as SkullSpace is, which is 36A per group (36A >>> > SkSp, 36A AW). Our rough estimated electrical bills has been >>> > calculated at $800-$850/mo. at peak use. >>> > >>> > What all of this means in the simplest terms is that the landlord is >>> > losing money on our lease, which is not good. This would very easily >>> > be a good reason to terminate our lease. Mike Legary estimated the >>> > landlord currently making $0.50/sq. ft. on the space, and with taxes >>> > at $0.70/sq. ft., which results in negative profit. In the upcoming >>> > meeting, the landlord will almost certainly be asking for a reduction >>> > of our usage. >>> > >>> > The suggestion that we will be making on Tuesday's meeting is that >>> > SkSp & AW will pay for a certain portion of the electrical in order to >>> > alleviate the problem of the landlord losing money. Don't forget that >>> > our lease has a 6-month clause which means that the landlord could >>> > terminate on us at any time. Our max offered contribution towards the >>> > electrical bill will be $250/mo. per group, meaning a $500 >>> > contribution from the floor. Again, we are doing this so that we >>> > appear as the "good guys" who are recognising that the landlord is not >>> > making money on us, and primarily we are doing this so that we don't >>> > lose our lease. AssentWorks has already agreed to this amount, and we >>> > need SkullSpace to be on board by Monday so that we can take this >>> > offer to the meeting on Tuesday. If SkullSpace does not agree to this >>> > and AssentWorks does, not only will it look bad on our part when >>> > talking to the landlord, but it will almost certainly result in the >>> > loss of our lease. The other added part to this agreement is for both >>> > sides to reduce electrical consumption by 1/3 (the amount we will >>> > bring to the table). This isn't as hard as it sounds; we have old >>> > lighting taking up double the power of new lights; and lighting could >>> > be put on motion sensors as AssentWorks will be doing. We could also >>> > properly ventilate our server room which will result in reduced >>> > workload on the machines and save us money. >>> > >>> > Unfortunately this issue is not one that can wait for a formal meeting >>> > vote by members; Mike Legary and I need to go into this as being on >>> > the same page in order to present a concerted response. Part of our >>> > discussions will also focus on increased electrical due to the >>> > landlord's decision to install space heaters, bad windows, etc. etc. >>> > Mike and I will work hard for SkSp and AW to bargain as best as we can >>> > in this process and also ensure that our upcoming electrical plans do >>> > not render these discussions moot. >>> > >>> > I will try my best to answer all questions pertaining to this as best >>> > as I can. >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > Justin >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ _______________________________________________ SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/
