Hi Harry,
I too am a PC user, and it does take a little while to get used to the way
JFW and Voice Over work. So give yourself that time. Please don't feel I'm
patronising you, but i have also hadd a few of your annoyances during my
first days with Voice Over.
Okay let's see what we can do.
Well i think one of your questions was how to get the VO and active
cursorsto follow each other. If you go to the VO preferenes by pressing
command option and f8, go to the navigation pannel and if you read the page
you will find various check boxes related to the various . cursors. I have
all of these boxes checked, so that all the cursors follow one another.
VO's behaviour is affected in various ways if you check difrent boxes.
I think you also wanted to know how to close a document. Well i assume you
want to be able to shut down the computer so after you've finished typing in
your document, you would press command q an you would be put into a dialog
box. If you explore the box, you'll find various buttons. Don't save,
cancel overwrite and save with a new name. use the VO keys with the arrow
keys to navigate to the button you want and then use VO keys and space to
click the button.
With regard to your last question, I think I'll let someone else anser
this, as I too find it difficult sometimes to edit, although it does get
easier every time i do it. But i think the thing to remember is that if you
are deleting certain letters, the cursor needs to be after the letter you
want to delete. I think JFW works differntly, but as I say others on this
list may be better at answering this particular question.
James
"Access to communication in the widest sense is access to knowledge" - Louis
Braille 1848
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry Bates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 9:20 PM
Subject: TextEdit and Vo
I changed the subject line to reflect the topic under discussion. I
certainly need help in using VO with TextEdit.
I have trouble editing with VO, and it seems like the VO cursor is in one
place and the active cursor is in another. What is the command to tether
the active cursor with the VO cursor?
Also when I try to shut down the computer, I am informed that the open
TextEdit program is preventing the shutdown. I am asked if I would like
to save the changes to the document, and what is the command to say yes or
no?
I am afraid my JAWS and PC habits are interfeering here, since in a PC
document all I have to do is press the "y" for yes and the "n" key for no,
then the document closes. What is the command to close an open TE
document? The command+q does not seem to be working for me.
When editing for instance removing the 2 between 123, Which number do I
focus on? Do I focus on the 1, or the 3? In a PC document with jaws I
always focus on the 2 and press the delete key, and the 2 is removed.
Also if I wanted to insert a 2 between the numbers of 13 all I had to do
is focus on the 3 and press the 2 and the number is always inserted to the
left of the character which has focus.
So far, the inability for me to edit text in a TE document with
consistency is driving me crazy. It seems that reading the keyboard
commands and trying to edit is not working out. I need to be spoon fed
one spoonfull at a time. Thanks for your help in this matter.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: iTunes' Inaccessibility and VoiceOver
As an aside, but yet related to this topic, I've noticed a very annoying
behavior with Text Edit lately that I can't quite figure out how to
really reproduce consistantly. Basically if I'm editing a text document,
I switch to lets say Mail and come back later to Text Edit, the arrow
keys will not read the text any longer. Its almost as though the Edit
area is locked from me reading it with the regular cursor, but yet I can
read it fine by navigating it with VO. It actually appears as though its
locked as I can't seem to edit anything. Only quiting Text Edit resolve
the problem. No matter if I bring the cursors together or turn VO on/off
has no affect. Has anyone else noticed this?
tnx
Scott
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