one thing though, the 24hour stream will not play.
On Nov 18, 2007, at 5:56 PM, Rafael Bejarano wrote:
The NPR page can be navigated with Safari 3, also, but be sure you
have the group-items-in-web-pages checkbox checked, or VoiceOver will
skip content. At least, that happens on my iBook G4.
Cordially,
Rafael Bejarano
On Nov 18, 2007, at 3:45 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I have gone to the npr.org page with tiger and safari 2.x and was
able to get far enough into the page so I could listen to streaming
broadcasts. I still have tiger but updated to safari 3.x and haven't
gone back and tried that pae again yet.
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007, David Poehlman wrote:
Fate E complee, but I don't know how it ehaved in tiger with s2.
It's a busy page though.
On Nov 18, 2007, at 12:40 PM, Rafael Bejarano wrote:
Thanks for clarifying. The perplexing thing is that I never had to
group items in order to navigate web pages before installing Safari
3. Moreover, Safari still skips items sometimes, even with the
grouping option activated.
A URL at which the problem has occurred is NPR.org.
Cordially,
Rafael Bejarano
On Nov 18, 2007, at 2:41 AM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:
I think my suggestion was to turn on grouping, use Shift-Control-
Option-Down to enter each group, use Ctrl-Option-Right or Control-
Option-Down to cycle between the items in each group, use Shift-
Shift-Control-Option-Up to exit each group as you finish with it,
and use Control-Option-Right and Control-Option-Down to move on to
the next item or group. Navigation is still unlikely to be
perfect, but if you could provide a URL and example content you
skip over that might help us confirm if it's a bug or something
you happen to be doing wrong.
--
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Rafael Bejarano wrote:
> Thanks for the info. My initial reason for asking about grouping
items is > that I was trying to solve a problem I'm having with
Safari 3 in Tiger. > In particular, I am finding that VO skips
content when I try to navigate > web pages using VO left- and
right-arrow. Any suggestions as to how to > solve this problem
would be highly appreciated.
> Rafael Bejarano
> On Nov 17, 2007, at 4:31 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:
> > Rafael Bejarano wrote:
> > > What is the grouping option supposed to do? I wasn't sure
how to use > > > it once I enabled it, so I disabled it again.
> > > Rafael Bejarano
> > > > Here's what the Getting Started with VoiceOver manual says
(page 53):
> > "The VoiceOver cursor typically moves linearly across
webpages, from
> > upper left to lower right. Depending on how a webpage was
designed, the
> > VoiceOver cursor may seem to move randomly when you navigate
in this
> > way. VoiceOver provides some options for improving the
navigation
> > experience. 'Group items in web pages' organizes a webpage
into related
> > groups of information. For example, all the song titles in a
list of > > hot
> > tunes, or an image with an excerpt of a news article. When you
choose
> > this option, VoiceOver identifies these as a group. You can
skim > > quickly
> > through groups until you hear one that interests you. Each
group of
> > information is treated as a content area, so you use the
VoiceOver
> > command Control-Option-Shift-Down Arrow to interact with the
contents."
> > > > Moving linearly across webpages is rarely an optimal mode
of > > navigation, since the various bits of content on a webpage
is often > > arranged in a grid-like layout of boxes, which might
be placed > > side-by-side as well as one beneath another. What
you want to do, > > ideally, is read line-by-line within a
particular box, then move onto > > the next box. One of the big
problems with the VoiceOver/WebKit > > combination is that the
VoiceOver cursor often seems to skip between > > different boxes
so that text is skipped or read out of order. My > > impression is
the 'Group items in web pages' option minimizes this > > problem
somewhat, at least in Tiger with Safari 2.
> > > > -- > > Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
> >
