I haven't signed up with them for anything...
Smiles,
Cara :)
On Nov 18, 2007, at 4:44 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
hmmm, maybe viewing source code and locate the 24-hour stream and
copy the link then perhaps paste it into a file on the desktop could
be used to get it going. It's a bit extreme I admit, another thing
about wamu and probably npr is that only registered users with
accounts have full use of page resources and the 24-hour stream
could be restricted until registration is taken care of.
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007, David Poehlman wrote:
one thing though, the 24hour stream will not play.
On Nov 18, 2007, at 5:56 PM, Rafael Bejarano wrote:
The NPR page can be navigated with Safari 3, also, but be sure you
have the group-items-in-web-pages checkbox checked, or VoiceOver
will skip content. At least, that happens on my iBook G4.
Cordially,
Rafael Bejarano
On Nov 18, 2007, at 3:45 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I have gone to the npr.org page with tiger and safari 2.x and was
able to get far enough into the page so I could listen to
streaming broadcasts. I still have tiger but updated to safari 3.x
and haven't gone back and tried that pae again yet.
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007, David Poehlman wrote:
> Fate E complee, but I don't know how it ehaved in tiger with
s2. It's a > busy page though.
> > On Nov 18, 2007, at 12:40 PM, Rafael Bejarano wrote:
> > Thanks for clarifying. The perplexing thing is that I never
had to group > items in order to navigate web pages before
installing Safari 3. > Moreover, Safari still skips items
sometimes, even with the grouping > option activated.
> > A URL at which the problem has occurred is NPR.org.
> > Cordially,
> Rafael Bejarano
> On Nov 18, 2007, at 2:41 AM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:
> > > I think my suggestion was to turn on grouping, use > > Shift-
Control-Option-Down to enter each group, use Ctrl-Option-Right or
> > Control-Option-Down to cycle between the items in each group,
use > > Shift-Shift-Control-Option-Up to exit each group as you
finish with it, > > and use Control-Option-Right and Control-
Option-Down to move on to the > > next item or group. Navigation
is still unlikely to be perfect, but if > > you could provide a
URL and example content you skip over that might > > help us
confirm if it's a bug or something you happen to be doing > > wrong.
> > --
> > Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
> > Rafael Bejarano wrote:
> > > Thanks for the info. My initial reason for asking about
grouping > > > items is > that I was trying to solve a problem
I'm having with > > > Safari 3 in Tiger. > In particular, I am
finding that VO skips > > > content when I try to navigate > web
pages using VO left- and > > > right-arrow. Any suggestions as to
how to > solve this problem would > > > be highly appreciated.
> > > Rafael Bejarano
> > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 4:31 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:
> > > > Rafael Bejarano wrote:
> > > > > What is the grouping option supposed to do? I wasn't
sure how to > > > > > use > > > it once I enabled it, so I
disabled it again.
> > > > > Rafael Bejarano
> > > > > > Here's what the Getting Started with VoiceOver manual
says > > > > > > (page 53):
> > > > "The VoiceOver cursor typically moves linearly across
webpages, > > > > from
> > > > upper left to lower right. Depending on how a webpage was
> > > > designed, the
> > > > VoiceOver cursor may seem to move randomly when you
navigate in > > > > this
> > > > way. VoiceOver provides some options for improving the
navigation
> > > > experience. 'Group items in web pages' organizes a
webpage into > > > > related
> > > > groups of information. For example, all the song titles
in a list > > > > of > > hot
> > > > tunes, or an image with an excerpt of a news article.
When you > > > > choose
> > > > this option, VoiceOver identifies these as a group. You
can skim > > > > > > quickly
> > > > through groups until you hear one that interests you.
Each group > > > > of
> > > > information is treated as a content area, so you use the
VoiceOver
> > > > command Control-Option-Shift-Down Arrow to interact with
the > > > > contents."
> > > > > > Moving linearly across webpages is rarely an optimal
mode of > > > > > > > > navigation, since the various bits of
content on a webpage > > > > > > is often > > arranged in a grid-
like layout of boxes, which > > > > > > might be placed > > side-
by-side as well as one beneath > > > > > > another. What you want
to do, > > ideally, is read > > > > > > line-by-line within a
particular box, then move onto > > the > > > > > > next box. One
of the big problems with the VoiceOver/WebKit > > > > > > > >
combination is that the VoiceOver cursor often seems to skip > > >
> > > between > > different boxes so that text is skipped or read
> > > > > > out of order. My > > impression is the 'Group items
in web > > > > > > pages' option minimizes this > > problem
somewhat, at least in > > > > > > Tiger with Safari 2.
> > > > > > -- > > Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
> > > > > > > > >
