hmmm, maybe viewing source code and locate the 24-hour stream and copy the
link then perhaps paste it into a file on the desktop could be used to get
it going. It's a bit extreme I admit, another thing about wamu and
probably npr is that only registered users with accounts have full use of
page resources and the 24-hour stream could be restricted until
registration is taken care of.
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007, David Poehlman wrote:
one thing though, the 24hour stream will not play.
On Nov 18, 2007, at 5:56 PM, Rafael Bejarano wrote:
The NPR page can be navigated with Safari 3, also, but be sure you have the
group-items-in-web-pages checkbox checked, or VoiceOver will skip content. At
least, that happens on my iBook G4.
Cordially,
Rafael Bejarano
On Nov 18, 2007, at 3:45 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I have gone to the npr.org page with tiger and safari 2.x and was able to
get far enough into the page so I could listen to streaming broadcasts. I
still have tiger but updated to safari 3.x and haven't gone back and tried
that pae again yet.
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007, David Poehlman wrote:
> Fate E complee, but I don't know how it ehaved in tiger with s2. It's a
> busy page though.
>
> On Nov 18, 2007, at 12:40 PM, Rafael Bejarano wrote:
>
> Thanks for clarifying. The perplexing thing is that I never had to group
> items in order to navigate web pages before installing Safari 3.
> Moreover, Safari still skips items sometimes, even with the grouping
> option activated.
>
> A URL at which the problem has occurred is NPR.org.
>
> Cordially,
> Rafael Bejarano
> On Nov 18, 2007, at 2:41 AM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:
>
> > I think my suggestion was to turn on grouping, use
> > Shift-Control-Option-Down to enter each group, use Ctrl-Option-Right or
> > Control-Option-Down to cycle between the items in each group, use
> > Shift-Shift-Control-Option-Up to exit each group as you finish with it,
> > and use Control-Option-Right and Control-Option-Down to move on to the
> > next item or group. Navigation is still unlikely to be perfect, but if
> > you could provide a URL and example content you skip over that might
> > help us confirm if it's a bug or something you happen to be doing
> > wrong.
> > --
> > Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
> > Rafael Bejarano wrote:
> > > Thanks for the info. My initial reason for asking about grouping
> > > items is > that I was trying to solve a problem I'm having with
> > > Safari 3 in Tiger. > In particular, I am finding that VO skips
> > > content when I try to navigate > web pages using VO left- and
> > > right-arrow. Any suggestions as to how to > solve this problem would
> > > be highly appreciated.
> > > Rafael Bejarano
> > > On Nov 17, 2007, at 4:31 PM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:
> > > > Rafael Bejarano wrote:
> > > > > What is the grouping option supposed to do? I wasn't sure how to
> > > > > use > > > it once I enabled it, so I disabled it again.
> > > > > Rafael Bejarano
> > > > > > Here's what the Getting Started with VoiceOver manual says
> > > > > > (page 53):
> > > > "The VoiceOver cursor typically moves linearly across webpages,
> > > > from
> > > > upper left to lower right. Depending on how a webpage was
> > > > designed, the
> > > > VoiceOver cursor may seem to move randomly when you navigate in
> > > > this
> > > > way. VoiceOver provides some options for improving the navigation
> > > > experience. 'Group items in web pages' organizes a webpage into
> > > > related
> > > > groups of information. For example, all the song titles in a list
> > > > of > > hot
> > > > tunes, or an image with an excerpt of a news article. When you
> > > > choose
> > > > this option, VoiceOver identifies these as a group. You can skim >
> > > > > quickly
> > > > through groups until you hear one that interests you. Each group
> > > > of
> > > > information is treated as a content area, so you use the VoiceOver
> > > > command Control-Option-Shift-Down Arrow to interact with the
> > > > contents."
> > > > > > Moving linearly across webpages is rarely an optimal mode of >
> > > > > > > navigation, since the various bits of content on a webpage
> > > > > > is often > > arranged in a grid-like layout of boxes, which
> > > > > > might be placed > > side-by-side as well as one beneath
> > > > > > another. What you want to do, > > ideally, is read
> > > > > > line-by-line within a particular box, then move onto > > the
> > > > > > next box. One of the big problems with the VoiceOver/WebKit >
> > > > > > > combination is that the VoiceOver cursor often seems to skip
> > > > > > between > > different boxes so that text is skipped or read
> > > > > > out of order. My > > impression is the 'Group items in web
> > > > > > pages' option minimizes this > > problem somewhat, at least in
> > > > > > Tiger with Safari 2.
> > > > > > -- > > Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
> > > >
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